Significant Questions of Belief

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_Gazelam
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harmony wrote:
Gazelam wrote:I was unaware that the day of judgement and exaltation had occured.


How did he get to be an angel, if he hasn't already been judged? Consistency, Gaz! C'mon!


Final judgement makes one a God Harmony. Being an angel is merely continueing his work.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
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Gazelam wrote:
harmony wrote:
Gazelam wrote:I was unaware that the day of judgement and exaltation had occured.


How did he get to be an angel, if he hasn't already been judged? Consistency, Gaz! C'mon!


Final judgement makes one a God Harmony. Being an angel is merely continueing his work.


CFR, Gaz. And make sure they're in the canon. Nothing else is binding.
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Monkeys,

I'd love to discuss many of your answers, but lets look at one:

If I believed in a God I would hope that he would save all. Although I have nothing from Christianity to base a loving God upon. It appears to me that the God of the Old Testament is just as relevant as the New Testament, to me. Not sure how God of Christianity treats humans. Wishful thinking on my part would be that all have potential for full salvation.


God chooses to be known under the name of Father. As a Father he acts much as you do as a Mother, he is a teacher and a caretaker. he works specifically with those who choose to seek him out.

Is there suffering in the world? Yes, but they are a result of individual choice, whether it be suffering you inflict upon yourself by your poor decisions, or suffering you inflict on your progeny by the selfish and wicked choices you make. In the end, all of this will be shown and individuals judged as to the effect of their actions and teachings.

God loves us all, and has done all he could to ensure we understand the meanign behind this life. He sends prophets, angels, missionaries, all in hopes that we will be baptised and receive the revelations of heaven by way of the Holy Ghost. But we justify, and make excuses, and explain away with deluded reasoning.

God is only found through earnest and honest prayer. Some people find that incredibly hard, and moreso if they are old and comfortable, or busy and sure of their own strength.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
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harmony wrote:
Gazelam wrote:
harmony wrote:
Gazelam wrote:I was unaware that the day of judgement and exaltation had occured.


How did he get to be an angel, if he hasn't already been judged? Consistency, Gaz! C'mon!


Final judgement makes one a God Harmony. Being an angel is merely continueing his work.


CFR, Gaz. And make sure they're in the canon. Nothing else is binding.


How about Moroni ?
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
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Gazelam wrote:
harmony wrote:
Gazelam wrote:
harmony wrote:
Gazelam wrote:I was unaware that the day of judgement and exaltation had occured.


How did he get to be an angel, if he hasn't already been judged? Consistency, Gaz! C'mon!


Final judgement makes one a God Harmony. Being an angel is merely continueing his work.


CFR, Gaz. And make sure they're in the canon. Nothing else is binding.


How about Moroni ?


How is he different?
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BishopRic wrote:
Gazelam wrote:BishopRic,

Care to tackle the twelve questions? Love to get your two cents on those.

Gaz


I just did.


Didn't mean to be smug here, so let me explain. If you were to be asked to debate whether Cinderella's coach were to turn back into a pumpkin at 12:00...or 12:01, you might struggle to put much energy into it. This is how I see the 12 questions -- all fictional, man-made premises, so the answers would also be based on the myth. Interesting for some, I'm sure, but mostly a waste of time for those who don't believe the premises.
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BishopRic wrote:Didn't mean to be smug here, so let me explain. If you were to be asked to debate whether Cinderella's coach were to turn back into a pumpkin at 12:00...or 12:01, you might struggle to put much energy into it. This is how I see the 12 questions -- all fictional, man-made premises, so the answers would also be based on the myth. Interesting for some, I'm sure, but mostly a waste of time for those who don't believe the premises.


That particular myth is what drives world politics, the world economy, the struggle for human rights, etc. It's not exactly a small thing.
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BishopRic wrote:
BishopRic wrote:
Gazelam wrote:BishopRic,

Care to tackle the twelve questions? Love to get your two cents on those.

Gaz


I just did.


Didn't mean to be smug here, so let me explain. If you were to be asked to debate whether Cinderella's coach were to turn back into a pumpkin at 12:00...or 12:01, you might struggle to put much energy into it. This is how I see the 12 questions -- all fictional, man-made premises, so the answers would also be based on the myth. Interesting for some, I'm sure, but mostly a waste of time for those who don't believe the premises.


I agree. My answers are "no," "inapplicable," "who cares" and "you've gotta be kidding me." Distribute accordingly.
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harmony wrote:
BishopRic wrote:Didn't mean to be smug here, so let me explain. If you were to be asked to debate whether Cinderella's coach were to turn back into a pumpkin at 12:00...or 12:01, you might struggle to put much energy into it. This is how I see the 12 questions -- all fictional, man-made premises, so the answers would also be based on the myth. Interesting for some, I'm sure, but mostly a waste of time for those who don't believe the premises.


That particular myth is what drives world politics, the world economy, the struggle for human rights, etc. It's not exactly a small thing.


Well that's terrifying to ponder. Fortunately, I think that's not true. But, it's rather startling to think that it could be.
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Didn't mean to be smug here, so let me explain. If you were to be asked to debate whether Cinderella's coach were to turn back into a pumpkin at 12:00...or 12:01, you might struggle to put much energy into it. This is how I see the 12 questions -- all fictional, man-made premises, so the answers would also be based on the myth. Interesting for some, I'm sure, but mostly a waste of time for those who don't believe the premises.


The questions posed are the basis of many Christian beliefs. They deal with the nature and attrributes of God and our understanding of those attributes.

This of coarce stems from questions like "Who am I?", "Where do I come from?", "Where am I going?"

Adam of course never had these questions, but a few generations from Adam, after various children had fallen into apostacy, these questions no doubt arose.

Angels and prophets are sent to answer these questions and set us on the right path, and we have our agency to accept or reject them.

Like Isabella's brother in Measure for Measure you are free to choose to think "Ay, but to die, and go we know not where; to lie in cold obstruction, and to rot; this sensible warm motion to become a kneaded clod."

But a Mormon, especially one who has gone to the Temple of our God, knows better than that.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
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