New Here --Suspended from MAD for Arguing with DCP- Question

[_karl61]

Wade, it seems that you prefer not being hot or cold but lukewarm, but Jesus, via the book of revelations counsels against that; infact, said he will spit those people out of his mouth.

[_mms]

I must admit that I am still a bit puzzled, so further clarification would certainly be helpful.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Allow me to help, although I am somewhat surprised you missed it:

About this board, you said:

In fact, these topics are perhaps the two most popular discussed here, followed closely by disdain for Juliann and perhaps Charity, if not also loss of faith due to Church history (which I noticed you also recently openned a thread thereon). You are absolutely free here to dwell as much and as long on these things as your heart desires, and you can get as angry and disdainful as you need and it will be empathized with and welcomed. And, if you are partial to dropping the F-bomb and using other vulgar terms (though trasparently disguised with **** and _____), you will fit right in.

Then, about me, you said:

I trust that your experience here will be far more mutually suitable and rewarding than your brief experience at MA&D.

So after describing the board in pejorative terms, you concluded by stating your confidence that I, personally, will have a "far more mutually suitable and rewarding" experience here than at MAD. Now do you get it?

It is totally fine for you to think that I fit in with those who drop the f bomb, use vulgar terms, constantly express/welcome/empathize with disdain and anger and dwell on these things, but at least stand behind your words and quit with the self-righteous attempts to backtrack. Yous aid what you said. Stand by it or admit you erred. Whatever.

[_wenglund]

Wade, it seems that you prefer not being hot or cold but lukewarm, but Jesus, via the book of revelations counsels against that; infact, said he will spit those people out of his mouth.

I think it helpful (at least to me) to distinguish between the temperature of one's personal convictions (which, in terms of myself, I view as extremely hot in relation to Jesus and his restored gospel), and the temperature of one's interpersonal interactions (which admittedly, I would hope will be warm and condusive to mutual edification--though, if mms' assesment, I may come across to some as "dull"). I believe the Savior reference to hot/cold/luke warm were in reference to the former, and not the latter. In fact, from what I would gather from the beatitudes and other calls of Christ for us to love thy neighbor, that he would prefer the warmth of love in interpresonal interaction than the heat of anger or the coldness of cruelty. Don't you? ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_karl61]

You would think that ; when you looked at those who believed in the "restored gospel" that they would be loving, patient, and show long-suffering, but history teaches us other things and shows us the thoughts of others through their action or inaction.

[Gadianton]

I must admit that I am still a bit puzzled, so further clarification would certainly be helpful.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Allow me to help, although I am somewhat surprised you missed it:

About this board, you said:

In fact, these topics are perhaps the two most popular discussed here, followed closely by disdain for Juliann and perhaps Charity, if not also loss of faith due to Church history (which I noticed you also recently openned a thread thereon). You are absolutely free here to dwell as much and as long on these things as your heart desires, and you can get as angry and disdainful as you need and it will be empathized with and welcomed. And, if you are partial to dropping the F-bomb and using other vulgar terms (though trasparently disguised with **** and _____), you will fit right in.

Then, about me, you said:

I trust that your experience here will be far more mutually suitable and rewarding than your brief experience at MA&D.

So after describing the board in pejorative terms, you concluded by stating your confidence that I, personally, will have a "far more mutually suitable and rewarding" experience here than at MAD. Now do you get it?

I get now how you resonably interpreted what I said, and I can understand your surprise given that reasonable interpretation.

However, you may be pleased to learn that your interpretation is a far cry from the meaning I intended.

To further clarify, in one respect, the "I trust" was intended to be understood as contingient upon my qualified "if" statements. In other words, think of "I trust" as a substitute for "then" in an "if/then" syllogism. For example, if you like complaining about MA&D, then (or I trust) this board will be mutually suitable.

In another respect, as previously mentioned, it was a genuine expression of hope that whatever the case your experience here would be better, or more rewarding, than your experience at MA&D.

Now that you correctly understand what I meant, are you still suprised?

It is totally fine for you to think that I fit in with those who drop the f bomb, use vulgar terms, constantly express/welcome/empathize with disdain and anger and dwell on these things, but at least stand behind your words and quit with the self-righteous attempts to backtrack. You said what you said. Stand by it or admit you erred. Whatever.

Again, I have no idea whether you fit in those ways or not. I don't know you, nor do I know much about you--though, from what I gather from your follow-up remarks, it appears that you don't fit those things (and I can accept that). That is why I intentionally, to begin with (not to be confused with backtracking), used the hypothetical "if". If (please note this important qualifier) you don't fit in each of those ways (as now appears to be the case), then I trust (please note the if/then syllogistic use of the phrase "I trust") that at least to that extent this place won't be as well suited for you, though I do still hope your experience here will be mutually rewarding and better for you than your brief experience at MA&D.

However, if (please note this important qualifier) you can't accept this reasonable clarification before moving on, but need me to mistakenly admit to your accusation of self-righteous attempts at backtracking and err, then I am fine leaving you with that impression of me, understanding that this is both of our choices.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[Gadianton]

You would think that ; when you looked at those who believed in the "restored gospel" that they would be loving, patient, and show long-suffering, but history teaches us other things and shows us the thoughts of others through their action or inaction.

I suspect, too, that what is "taught" is somewhat individually dependant upon the nature of the lense one looks through when judging others--i.e. how narrowly and minutely it may be focused and directed, and perhaps also how it may unknowingly reflect back to those who may be peering through it. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

By the way mms,

I genuinely do wish to improve. So, if you could provide me with examples where you believe I personally attacked the critics on the other board, I would appreciate it.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Mister Scratch]

By the way mms,

I genuinely do wish to improve. So, if you could provide me with examples where you believe I personally attacked the critics on the other board, I would appreciate it.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wait a second... Let me see if I've got this straight. You want to 'improve' your penchant for attacking critics, but *only* on the other board? If you'd like someone to supply instances of your boorish, rude, nasty, subhuman behavior on THIS board, I'm sure we could do it without much difficulty.

[_wenglund]

By the way mms,

I genuinely do wish to improve. So, if you could provide me with examples where you believe I personally attacked the critics on the other board, I would appreciate it.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wait a second... Let me see if I've got this straight. You want to 'improve' your penchant for attacking critics, but *only* on the other board? If you'd like someone to supply instances of your boorish, rude, nasty, subhuman behavior on THIS board, I'm sure we could do it without much difficulty.

While not exactly in line with the context of my query, if you feel it will be of help to provide some examples from here of things I still have need to improve on, then by all means, knock yourself out. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Mister Scratch]

By the way mms,

I genuinely do wish to improve. So, if you could provide me with examples where you believe I personally attacked the critics on the other board, I would appreciate it.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wait a second... Let me see if I've got this straight. You want to 'improve' your penchant for attacking critics, but *only* on the other board? If you'd like someone to supply instances of your boorish, rude, nasty, subhuman behavior on THIS board, I'm sure we could do it without much difficulty.

While not exactly in line with the context of my query, if you feel it will be of help to provide some examples from here of things I still have need to improve on, then by all means, knock yourself out. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Nice try, Wade. I hardly think you are going to be able to gloss over your standard-issue condescension and nastiness so easily, however, my old friend. It's transparently obvious that your "query" was really just aimed at attacking/smearing/knocking down mms. Pull your head out already, man. Or shall I repost some choice selections from your old "Center for Same-Sex Attraction Disorders" website?