Today's Lesson: Jesus lights the Sun moon and stars

[_Chap]

Man have to think themselves supreme otherwise they would have no sense of meaning or purpose.

Speak for yourself. That is not true for me, or for quite a lot of other people I know.

Ever been a woman?

Given the context, I think it is pretty clear that by 'Man' JonasS/pirate meant 'human beings', and was not referring to gender. Of course I could be wrong.

[_JonasS]

No one deserves to be patronized and marginalized, no matter what the content and style of their posts

Not sure I can agree that is generally true. There comes a point where someone is babbling so much that they significantly degrade the signal-to-noise ratio of a thread, and at that point is is reasonable to indicate that is all they are doing.

Then learn to understand AND LISTEn first time aroud then no ratio will be disturbed, because from what I see this is no longer about Photons, this is personal, and do you know why?

Because you now understand what I meant and you just can't back down and accept that I was not talking crud.

[_Angus McAwesome]

This just gets better and better and better...

Oh yeah really? I think I have been around here just a bit longer than a month more.

Hey look! JonasS is a sockpuppet! Drama ahoy!

And to me, how you described suggests you were saying I'm stuck up!!!

Then you're an idiot.

I am not an emo!

let's see... Overly dramatic, check... Insecurity issues, check... Thinks that no one understands them, check... Emo is as Emo does, and you're an Emo. Wouldn't at all suprise me if you told us you cut yourself while listening to the latest from Linkin Park.

I am replying to some ass faced bully who thinks he/she can push me around.

Butthurt whining, check. You're an Emo.

Ok so what I don't know what tl; dr means big whoop!

And after all five or six years you've been on the internet it never once occurred to you to GOOGLE IT, n00b? I bet you really do think the whole think is a series of tubes and you don't know what a Rick Roll is either.

that gives you no right to push me around calling me names etc.

I do that because I can and I know you'll get all butthurt about it, Emo.

GROW UP!!!

This is truly hilarious. You're the one reacting to me, posting in CAPS and ending it with three exclamation points, and I'm the one that needs to grow up... You're so Emo I bet when you walk across the lawn the grass cuts itself.

I did a pretty good job to squirm past admission tutors given that I had to write an application with a long personal statement and have references and be interviewed over the phone.

You and tens of thousands of students world wide.

Also having had a reference from the Director of SERCO at RAF Fylingdales must have helped a bit.

Wait a second... You live in the UK and earlier as "JonasS" you said "My English is something I have only recently learned to develop" and now your English has suddenly had a dramatic improvement. So not only are you a butthurt little Emo, you're also a bad liar.

HEY LOOK AT ME!!!1! emo butthurt tl;dr

Who cares. If you're supposedly done all of those things and are at such a great school then why do you act like a such a moron?

Hey, I may not know a lot of things about general life

Obviously.

and often have difficulty in being understood

No new information here either.

and it takes a certain level of people to understand and comprehend what I am saying

You mean people who've repeatedly slammed their heads into walls, emos, and teenagers?

whether that be intellectual or not it clearly isn't you.

Correct. I am not a teenage Emo with severe head trauma.

But my oh my, I did not come in here asking for this palava you are attempting to pile on me.

Then stop acting like a moronic butthurt little Emo teenager and start acting like a young adult who's been accepted at a uni as you claim to have been.

I am merely expressing my opinion

Myself and others in this thread have tried to explain to you how your opinion is wrong and you continue to repeat that opinion almost as if by saying it enough it will somehow become true.

and if you choose to dilike me

I don't dislike you, I think you're being an immature teenage Emo prat. Knock that off and I'll go right back to being friendly and cordial with you.

or find me annoying or an air head

Then stop acting like one.

attempt to come across older than me yet your sigline says otherwise

Yes, because a signature quote indicates how old someone is. Nice try, child. Go back to Live Journal and write more bad poetry about how other people just don't get you and how hard your life is, maybe mix it up a bit with pictures of you in black make-up surrounded by your Good Charlotte and Linkin Park posters.

take a look at yourself before you attack others.

I wasn't the one claiming to have been accepted into a university's physics program and then claim that Jesus is a physical light source.

How dare you???

Because I can, my little Emo Monkey-on-a-string.

[_silentkid]

Ok so what I don't know what tl; dr means big whoop!

TL;DR is shorthand for too long; didn't read. I didn't know what it mean't either but I freely admit to being a N00B, especially when I'm getting the trash kicked out of me by 12 year-olds at COD4 on the PS3.

[Guest]

No one deserves to be patronized and marginalized, no matter what the content and style of their posts

Not sure I can agree that is generally true. There comes a point where someone is babbling so much that they significantly degrade the signal-to-noise ratio of a thread, and at that point is is reasonable to indicate that is all they are doing.

Then learn to understand AND LISTEn first time aroud then no ratio will be disturbed, because from what I see this is no longer about Photons, this is personal, and do you know why?

Because you now understand what I meant and you just can't back down and accept that I was not talking crud.

As you would be the first to admit, it is often difficult to be sure of what you mean, and when you mean it to be taken seriously.

Would you like to state your main point clearly and simply, and then I shall say if I agree with it or not?

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[_JonasS]

Man have to think themselves supreme otherwise they would have no sense of meaning or purpose.

Speak for yourself. That is not true for me, or for quite a lot of other people I know.

Ever been a woman?

Given the context, I think it is pretty clear that by 'Man' JonasS/pirate meant 'human beings', and was not referring to gender. Of course I could be wrong.

Haha... I just happen to be a little bit of a feminist. Ugh I want to waist my energy and swear my head off right now.

CHAP look at society look and see how people are. For goodness sake, humans DO think they are superior to animal and other objects, you can't deny that. All through time men and mankind have put themselves up as supreme in comparison to what we know other than God. So then of course we need to think Jesus or God or something created this universe for us specifically. Not all people can accept that we may have no purpose and are merely just a random creation created by the random combination of particles or any other similar creation idea.

Otherwise why would we need to believe in a God, why would people create idols, why would people have to imagine an afterlife. It is all about having a sense of purpose.

[_harmony]

No one deserves to be patronized and marginalized, no matter what the content and style of their posts

Not sure I can agree that is generally true. There comes a point where someone is babbling so much that they significantly degrade the signal-to-noise ratio of a thread, and at that point is is reasonable to indicate that is all they are doing.

There are other ways of letting someone know they've exceeded your personal noise-to-signal ratio than patronizing them with "I was teaching..." blah blah blah. A simple "We're not communicating well here" would suffice, and the head pat you just administered would not sink the person into a demeaning puddle.

You're obviously a very articulate person, with a great deal of knowledge and a great deal of education, none of which matters much here. She's not one of your students. Your professional status and expertise has little if any bearing on the discussions here. Daniel has a very similiar problem, in that he thinks we're all fools and idiots with miniscule comprehension skills and no life experience. You seem like a good chap. I'd hoped you wouldn't descend to his level. Perhaps it was simply that you forgot where you were for a second.

[_bcspace]

I've already shown how these things are not in conflict with LDS teaching. Probably why the thread degenerated into discussion about Pratt's nondoctrinal statements.

Really? Can you post a link to those statements?

Just look at page 1 of this thread.

[_Some Schmo]

It won't get you away from the point that if your deity created everything, he is responsible for the nasty stuff as well as for the nice stuff.

Not only that, but if he indeed created everything for the sake of human life, then he is easily the most wasteful creator ever, given the vastness of the universe and how much of it is actually inhabitable by mankind.

If I were his project manager (on the "Create A Space for Humankind" Project - or CASH) he'd have gotten his pink slip before the first million years were up. "Wait... you're telling me I have to wait 4.5 billion years before human life begins, and even then, it'll only exist within 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% (approximate value rounded up to save bandwidth and forum space) of the universe? Jesus! You're fired!"

Your argument makes sense. But Man have to think themselves supreme otherwise they would have no sense of meaning or purpose. I think there is greater yet to come.

Actually, I should have said, "...I have to wait 13.5 billion years before human life begins..." That's the age of the universe. It's the Earth that is approximately 4.5 billion.

As for feeling supreme in order to have a sense of meaning and purpose, I disagree. I feel the very opposite of supreme. I'm an avid watcher of The Universe series on the History channel, and every time I watch it, I'm struck with just how insignificant I am.

However, that doesn't mean my life has no purpose. I regularly serve my wife, I am raising a daughter, I am helping the company I work for make money which in turn favors our stock holders, and I offer comfort and conversation to friends. To me, that is far more important than some contrived "divine" purpose, and I'm certainly not going to live my life on the idea that there may be "greater yet to come." That would be silly. The here and now is far more meaningful and important, AFAIC.

[_Imwashingmypirate]

This just gets better and better and better...

Oh yeah really? I think I have been around here just a bit longer than a month more.

Hey look! JonasS is a sockpuppet! Drama ahoy!

And to me, how you described suggests you were saying I'm stuck up!!!

Then you're an idiot.

I am not an emo!

let's see... Overly dramatic, check... Insecurity issues, check... Thinks that no one understands them, check... Emo is as Emo does, and you're an Emo. Wouldn't at all suprise me if you told us you cut yourself while listening to the latest from Linkin Park.

I am replying to some ass faced bully who thinks he/she can push me around.

Butthurt whining, check. You're an Emo.

Ok so what I don't know what tl; dr means big whoop!

And after all five or six years you've been on the internet it never once occurred to you to GOOGLE IT, n00b? I bet you really do think the whole think is a series of tubes and you don't know what a Rick Roll is either.

that gives you no right to push me around calling me names etc.

I do that because I can and I know you'll get all butthurt about it, Emo.

GROW UP!!!

This is truly hilarious. You're the one reacting to me, posting in CAPS and ending it with three exclamation points, and I'm the one that needs to grow up... You're so Emo I bet when you walk across the lawn the grass cuts itself.

I did a pretty good job to squirm past admission tutors given that I had to write an application with a long personal statement and have references and be interviewed over the phone.

You and tens of thousands of students world wide.

Also having had a reference from the Director of SERCO at RAF Fylingdales must have helped a bit.

Wait a second... You live in the UK and earlier as "JonasS" you said "My English is something I have only recently learned to develop" and now your English has suddenly had a dramatic improvement. So not only are you a butthurt little Emo, you're also a bad liar.

HEY LOOK AT ME!!!1! emo butthurt tl;dr

Who cares. If you're supposedly done all of those things and are at such a great school then why do you act like a such a moron?

Hey, I may not know a lot of things about general life

Obviously.

and often have difficulty in being understood

No new information here either.

and it takes a certain level of people to understand and comprehend what I am saying

You mean people who've repeatedly slammed their heads into walls, emos, and teenagers?

whether that be intellectual or not it clearly isn't you.

Correct. I am not a teenage Emo with severe head trauma.

But my oh my, I did not come in here asking for this palava you are attempting to pile on me.

Then stop acting like a moronic butthurt little Emo teenager and start acting like a young adult who's been accepted at a uni as you claim to have been.

I am merely expressing my opinion

Myself and others in this thread have tried to explain to you how your opinion is wrong and you continue to repeat that opinion almost as if by saying it enough it will somehow become true.

and if you choose to dilike me

I don't dislike you, I think you're being an immature teenage Emo prat. Knock that off and I'll go right back to being friendly and cordial with you.

or find me annoying or an air head

Then stop acting like one.

attempt to come across older than me yet your sigline says otherwise

Yes, because a signature quote indicates how old someone is. Nice try, child. Go back to Live Journal and write more bad poetry about how other people just don't get you and how hard your life is, maybe mix it up a bit with pictures of you in black make-up surrounded by your Good Charlotte and Linkin Park posters.

take a look at yourself before you attack others.

I wasn't the one claiming to have been accepted into a university's physics program and then claim that Jesus is a physical light source.

How dare you???

Because I can, my little Emo Monkey-on-a-string.

Well it would seem that YOu are the ONLY person in here that does NOT know I am Pirate and Jonass. Omg read the archives assholio. And you seam to be the only person to use that crap, so why would I need to google it? How would I be expected to know or look it up if you are the only person I have ever seen to go so low as to actually use it?

I never claimed Jesus IS a light source, I merely suggested he could be. And how you know I am at uni studying Phjysics if you didn't even know I am pirate, I don't know.

Yourself and others have misunderstood me, go back and read the whole thread.

I am not a bad lier because I am not lying. READ WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN!!!! Ask any long timer here.

I have never cut myself and nor do I consider to do so nor have I ever. I don't listen to that cruddy music it is depressing. I have a happy life or as happy as I can make it. I have no reason to be negative and I most certainly am not whiny.

I AM ON THE DEFENCE BECAUSE YOU ARE PUTTING ME THERE AND THUS OF COURSE I AM GOING TO DEFEND MYSELF.

So why not just start a new thread and tell us all what this really is about because as far as I can see you are the only person attacking me and youu have selective reading skills, marvelous. Oh and Chap can join in too, why not get what the real issue is out in the open. because it seams to me that I am on the defence and you are the attacker with a little help from your sidekick Chap.