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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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Mister Scratch wrote:
Gee, you were really hurt by that, weren't you? Did you get you feelings hurt, Jersey, or did you feel like you were being....jerked around? If so, let me know. Let's try and work this out. I'm sure you want the drama to come to an end. Right?


My new post just above this one addresses much of what you've written here, Scratch. I'll be glad to post the chat conversation including your remarks on this board later today to demonstrate your irrational behavior there. You can infact, count on my posting our exchanges here. There is nothing on God's green earth that you could possibly do to hurt my feelings. I find you naïvely ignorant of how you present on this board and an interesting observation from a psychological perspective.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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Scartch, there's an enormous difference between saying that, someday, you and Mini-Scartch and all others who bear false witness will need to account for that -- a very biblical and widely-accepted scenario -- and announcing what the verdict of the Final Judgment will be. (My candid sense, incidentally, is that you might well get off by reason of insanity.) I mentioned the first, but I have never engaged in the second. It's quite a bit beyond my pay grade.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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Scratch
Myself, harmony, Dr. Shades, and anyone else your false rumor affected.


Let's see how intellectually honest you are, Scratch.

Firstly, my accusation regarding Kerry went directly to harmony and Shades. Shades then saw fit to compile a list of evidences (some from me and some he had gathered on his own) and circulate those to a total of 4 posters. That is to say, he took information supplied to him privately via PM's and passed it on to others.

How were you affected by those accusations? You yourself were one of four recipients of the group PM list of evidences circulated by Shades. The information was there for you to evalute and you apparently felt convinced that it appeared sound. Keep in mind that part of the evidences were gathered and sequenced by Shades himself.

And you evaluted it as sound. I am not responsible for circulating a list of evidences to 4 posters. I am responsible for informing two people that at the time I knew for pehraps 3 years and who were directly affected by the events in question.

As you can see by the exchanges on this board harmony, Shades, Kerry and I are on good terms. Okay, well I still do bother Shades from time to time, but for the most part, the exchanges between us are fun and friendly once again.

No one was more greatly affected by my accusations than Kerry Shirts himself. How cocky of you to attempt to place yourself above the accused however that's to be expected from one who places himself on par with Christ Almighty.

And who was that 4th poster to whom the information was circulated? Why isn't that poster hopping up and down about it two years later?

I'll tell you why.

Because you are an outsider to the group you attempt to insert yourself into--in the public mind. Many or most of us have known each other for upwards of 10 years in some cases. Many or most of us are well able to engage in topical discussion and/or debate without getting personal. You, on the other hand have, injected a pervasive element of gossip/innuendo on this board. You aren't here to take part in this community.

You are here to avenge yourself and/or Quinn.

That itself would be perfectly okay with me if only you were straight forward from the start and if only you didn't appear to think this community were so gullible as to swallow everything you attempt to forward here.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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I'll throw out a question to Scratch, here.

I understand that you sincerely feel that DCP did a great injustice to Quinn.

Is your dogmatic need to avenge Quinn affected by the fact that he is a personal friend of yours?

If so, it would certainly add light on this whole situation.

You, of course, don't have to answer. I'm just genuinely curious.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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Jersey Girl wrote:What straightforward questions are you referring to here? The chat conversation? I'm afraid if you continue to mention that, I'll feel compelled to post it in it's entirety.


I think that you should post the conversation in its entirety. It has been alluded to many times. If the actual full conversation was posted, then everyone could judge for themselves.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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Jersey Girl wrote:Scratch,

I think I'm going to draw out here what I previously alluded to. In the above series of exchanges, I presented a list of claims on your part to cease posting, meet with DCP, reveal your identity and to cease posting threads about DCP, all of which you for one reason or another, have failed to follow through on. I'll grant you that your "offer" to cease posting and reveal your identity are contingent on exacting one or more apologies from DCP.


Hey, that's terrific.

Having said that, in response to my list of your unsatisfied claims, you ask me if I've apologized to "us". I know that you're doing so is an attempt to avoid dealing with the facts I listed on your failure to follow through on claims however, let me show you what it is you do.


But, you just said, "I'll grant you that your "offer" to cease posting and reveal your identity are contingent on exacting one or more apologies from DCP." So... what am I supposed to make of that?

There you attempt to insert yourself into a group (in the mind of the public I suppose) as if you are part of them seeking an apology on behalf of the group.


I was a part of a group of people who were led to believe something false (i.e., that Kerry Shirts was a part of the whole Z-troll, Mr. Itchy thing), due to your boneheaded speculations, Jersey. I *do* think you should apologize.

Perhaps you think that will intimidate me, but that sort of tactic just doesn't work with me. I see it coming a mile away, I know what the purpose of it is (evasion/intimidation) and it doesn't faze me in the least.


??? I don't whether you are intimidated, or whether you think "evasion" is taking place. None of this changes the fact that you are trying to wiggle out of the apology.

Back to the group you inserted yourself into. The group you name is harmony, Shades and yourself and you do so in reference to the Ztrolls/Itchy Blog.


Were we not among those whom you led astray?

You are either completely unaware, even after being told straight up, or are intentionally ignoring the fact that my participation in the events surrounding the Ztrolls/Itchy Blog were on account of years long interaction with both harmony and Shades, and support of this (then) new board. That's why the information I provided (regarding what they were posting and later, who I thought might be part of it) went directly to harmony and Shades, and not to you.


Talk about evasion! All you offer up is excuses, Jersey.

You were also told that I didn't recognize your information because I don't know you.

Do you think I recognize you as part of the group?


I don't care whether *you* recognize me as part of that group or not. The fact is that I was also deceived by your faulty, hotheaded "evidence gathering." If you run over your cat with a car, the cat is still flattened, regardless of whether or not you recognize it as such.

Whenever you choose to post about this you name Shades and harmony. What you're doing is posting the handiest names you can think of because you didn't bother to notice that they weren't the only victims of the Ztrolls and Itchy, when if you were indeed part of them...you would have known that.


Well, then, why not just apologize to them then, Jersey?

So no, you get no public apology here from me regarding anything. You are and were never of personal interest to me as a victim of the Ztrolls or Itchy Blog.


Okey doke.

Again, what you were doing was attempting to insert yourself as part of a group in order profit from your posting in that you thought it would draw attention away from the assertions I made regarding your failure to follow through on your claims.


As usual, your argument doesn't make any sense, and is riddled with non-sequiturs.

Your attempts to give the appearance that you're surrounded with trusted anonymous informants. Three of your informants are known to me.


Well, once you figure out who the other 3-dozen-plus are, let me know. If it makes you feel better to think that it's just me, and that no one ever supplies me with "tips," terrific. I'm glad for you.

No one in this has been less straightforward than you.


Look, Jersey. Once upon a time, you and I got along pretty well. If you are interested in trying to patch things up, then by all means, please send me a PM. If you want to carry on in another round of Drama Queen antics, however, then I can't stop you.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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liz3564 wrote:I'll throw out a question to Scratch, here.

I understand that you sincerely feel that DCP did a great injustice to Quinn.

Is your dogmatic need to avenge Quinn affected by the fact that he is a personal friend of yours?

If so, it would certainly add light on this whole situation.

You, of course, don't have to answer. I'm just genuinely curious.


I'd prefer not to say, Liz. For reasons which are probably pretty obvious.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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liz3564 wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:What straightforward questions are you referring to here? The chat conversation? I'm afraid if you continue to mention that, I'll feel compelled to post it in it's entirety.


I think that you should post the conversation in its entirety. It has been alluded to many times. If the actual full conversation was posted, then everyone could judge for themselves.


I have a portion of the chat conversation right here:

Mister Scratch] 11:12 pm: So, Jersey: do you think Mrs. Robbins was involved in the Itchy blog?
[Jersey Girl] 11:12 pm: Yes
[Celestial Kingdom]: Some Schmo has left at 11:13 pm
[Mister Scratch] 11:13 pm: Huh.
[Mister Scratch] 11:13 pm: Her and Pahoran, eh?
[Jersey Girl] 11:13 pm: There was a line on the Itchy blog regarding Mrs. Robbins Son
[Jersey Girl] 11:13 pm: Did you got into the Z posts?
[Jersey Girl] 11:14 pm: I have a copy of the blog on my old compu
[Mister Scratch] 11:14 pm: Of course.
[Jersey Girl] 11:14 pm: ter
[Jersey Girl] 11:14 pm: When you are looking at them....note the sig line for RandyMD
[Mister Scratch] 11:14 pm: Oh! Okay. I have long wondered why you seem to have such a detailed memory for that
blog.
[Jersey Girl] 11:14 pm: Because it mattered to me
[Jersey Girl] 11:15 pm: and because I have strong observation skills
[Jersey Girl] 11:16 pm: Do you recall RandyMD's sig line?
[Mister Scratch] 11:16 pm: No... please refresh my memory.
[Jersey Girl] 11:16 pm: Kill all the lawyers
[Jersey Girl] 11:16 pm: Shakespeare
[Jersey Girl] 11:17 pm: Get someone to search on "Shakespeare" on MAD and see who you come up with


A couple of things worth noting:

---Jersey apparently "saved" a copy of the Itchy blog on her computer. This fact has always struck me as odd. Why would she archive something like that?
---Notice that she doesn't just provide straight answers. When asked about "RandyMD"'s sigline, she says, "Go do such-and-such" a search on MAD.

I also have a series of PMs from her in which she does this exact same song-and-dance: "Go off and do a bunch of searches!" Why not just answer the question? Other oddities include her deletion of the "public" apology to Kerry Shirts, and so forth.
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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Scartch wants to preserve his anonymity and privacy -- which is entirely legitimate.

It's a bit funny, though, that I, who have posted openly under my own name, have continually been asked for details of my personal compensation, my employment, my daily schedule, etc., and, although I've actually revealed much more of that sort of thing than I'm obliged to and probably much more than I should have, am also continually accused of covering things up and hiding things (and worse).
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Re: The FROB Submission Guidlines

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Scratch wrote:Well, then, why not just apologize to them then, Jersey?


Scratch, she actually did. She apologized to Shades. She apologized to Harmony. She apologized to Kerry. The only person she did not apologize to was you, for the previous reasons she stated.

Scratch wrote:I'd prefer not to say, Liz. For reasons which are probably pretty obvious.


I understand. I just didn't see how answering would really compromise your anonymity. I'm sure that Quinn has quite a few friends. Stating that you are his friend, I don't think would compromise your situation. It would, however, explain a little bit more why you are so passionate about this issue.

I respect your decision not to answer, though. I was honestly just curious.
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