The MDB Schryver Jihad: How to Smear Your Opponent

[_wenglund]

I have no idea what a bung-wipe is (does it have anything to do with a bung wrench used to open water casks?), so I will have to defer to someone like you with obvious experience in such things.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Take a lesson from Wade, that's how the pros do it.

Please listen to Stak. He is a pro, and knows well of what he speaks.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Simon Belmont]

Hello,

Perhaps she should use the F-word like Mr. Belmont in order to achieve some class?

V/R
Dr. Cam

If someone were to datamine this forum and document all the "F-words" written by you and your alters (antishock8), and those written by myself, you would win by a landslide. Antishock8 (you) was such a vulgar, rude, offensive, contemptible creature that it is no wonder you created a new identity with which you attempt to severely over-correct with your stupid "Hello, V/R" BS.

[_Doctor Scratch]

If someone were to datamine this forum and document all the "F-words" written by you and your alters (antishock8), and those written by myself, you would win by a landslide. Antishock8 (you) was such a vulgar, rude, offensive, contemptible creature that it is no wonder you created a new identity with which you attempt to severely over-correct with your stupid "Hello, V/R" b***s***.

So, I guess the difference is that he's tried to improve his behavior, whereas you've just gotten worse?

[_Simon Belmont]

So, I guess the difference is that he's tried to improve his behavior, whereas you've just gotten worse?

I've stayed relatively the same... as constant as the North Star.

[Analytics]

So clearly Will's alleged vulgarity was simply the result of a smear campaign. It does however leave me with a question for Will's closest associates Nomad and Silver Hammer: what is the innocuous reading of phrases like middle-aged woman, varicose veins, or a woman who has more good years behind her than ahead of her? I'm sure those things aren't sexist in the least. I mean, I grant that they aren't vulgar, but I'm sure there's an innocent double-meaning there which isn't demeaning to women, right?

[_Jersey Girl]

I've read all the current Schryver-related threads, I've read every post in this thread, I know exactly what you were talking about, honey, don't get so riled up, okay?

Even with all you claim to have read, sweety-pie, if you had known exactly what I was talking about, you wouldn't have asked me a question that had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

And, I say this in an entirely un-riled, though bemused way.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

My darling Wade,

You are familiar with the term "leading question", no? Let's look at how my response would have fit the first time, had you answered "yes".

Are you saying that because a poster uses a screen name that they haven't the right to call someone a liar?

Let's imagine that you had said, "yes". To which I would have replied:

If you think that a poster who uses a screen name has no right to call someone a liar, then might I suggest you run that by any number of home grown apologists who do the very same thing?

Look familiar?

I almost always know how I'm going to play the hand, long before the cards are dealt.

:-)

[_wenglund]

So clearly Will's alleged vulgarity was simply the result of a smear campaign. It does however leave me with a question for Will's closest associates Nomad and Silver Hammer: what is the innocuous reading of phrases like middle-aged woman, varicose veins, or a woman who has more good years behind her than ahead of her? I'm sure those things are sexist in the least. I mean, I grant that they aren't vulgar, but I'm sure there's an innocent double-meaning there which isn't demeaning to women, right?

One would have to strain to find double meaning in such apt descriptors, but I am sure they can be found if people are bent in that direction. This is why the beloved PC crowd has fashioned presumably more favorable terms like "vintage," "seasoned," and "full of aesthetic character." Yet, even here people can take offense if they are hyper-sensitive enough and looking for offense.

I think it sad that what may have begun culturally as a movement towards civility and respect has become a means for manipulation and an over-wrought stick to beat relatively innocent people over the head. What was meant for good, has turn selectively to ill-use, and instead of leaving the intended benefactors better off, it inadvertently renders them weakened, victimological, and prone to self-loathing, and lacking in a healthy sense of self and humor. Bless the liberal hearts for this.

Mind you, I am not advocating or defending bad behavior. Instead, I am making a call for reasonableness, fairness/even-handedness, practicality, tolerance, forgiveness, and taking ourselves and others a little less seriously.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[Analytics]

One would have to strain to find double meaning in such apt descriptors, but I am sure they can be found if people are bent in that direction. This is why the beloved PC crowd has fashioned presumably more favorable terms like "vintage," "seasoned," and "full of aesthetic character." Yet, even here people can take offense if they are hyper-sensitive enough and looking for offense.

I think it sad that what may have begun culturally as a movement towards civility and respect has become a means for manipulation and an over-wrought stick to beat relatively innocent people over the head. What was meant for good, has turn selectively to ill-use, and instead of leaving the intended benefactors better off, it inadvertently renders them weakened, victimological, and prone to self-loathing, and lacking in a healthy sense of self and humor. Bless the liberal hearts for this.

Mind you, I am not advocating or defending bad behavior. Instead, I am making a call for reasonableness, fairness/even-handedness, practicality, tolerance, forgiveness, and taking ourselves and others a little less seriously.

Oh, of course. It all makes sense now. When someone throws in irrelevant comments which are culturally deemed unflattering, it's not the fault of the person bringing up the off-topic and unflattering remarks. It's our fault for feeling insulted. Makes perfect sense.

Therefore you, Will, and other others shouldn't feel bad when we criticize your actions. You should quit being victims about it and simply be more tolerant, forgiving, and take yourselves less seriously.

I never thought I'd say this but Wade, you're a genius!

[Gadianton]

My darling Wade,

You are familiar with the term "leading question", no? Let's look at how my response would have fit the first time, had you answered "yes".

Are you saying that because a poster uses a screen name that they haven't the right to call someone a liar?

Let's imagine that you had said, "yes". To which I would have replied:

If you think that a poster who uses a screen name has no right to call someone a liar, then might I suggest you run that by any number of home grown apologists who do the very same thing?

Look familiar?

I almost always know how I'm going to play the hand, long before the cards are dealt.

:-)

Precious love,

Your metaphoric card strategy may work if you are in a position to play both hands or if you are adept at anticipating the play of your opponents.

As it was, you misread the cards I laid on the table and thus mistakenly assumed a play by me that wasn't warranted.

Were that not enough, you continued to play pretending as if you had read the cards correctly and had made the right advantageous moves, only to find yourself having been called, trumped, and unwittingly losing several hands, if not the game.

Your strategy is the sort they love in Vegas because it means a sure-fired and relatively quick way of transferring money from your pocket to that of your opponents.

I don't and wouldn't like seeing that happen to a good soul like yourself, and so may I charitably recommend you take on a more suitable hobby or avocation, or at the very least learn better when to hold and fold them, if not how to more accurately read them. ;)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

I never thought I'd say this but Wade, you're a genius!

At least you were able to draw one correct conclusion from my comments. That is better than what some of the others have accomplished. [Thumbs up]

Thanks, -Wade Englund-