Hey Morley, what exactly did I do to make you so angry with me? I think the board has a block feature (most boards do) if I bother you that much.
I’m far from angry, my friend. To be honest, I’m pretty amused.
I’m suggesting that your story doesn’t add up and that there might be some here who aren’t finding it to be credible. Earlier, I tried to back off a bit and just let you dig yourself deeper, but I’m not always so good at that kind of massive self control. My apologies.
You seem to be a smart guy. Work on your backstory, keep posting, and I will do my best to stop needling you.
By the way, I know nothing about your avatar. It certainly didn’t trigger me. You should put it back up. Maybe then, you can explain the story behind it, too.
Hey Morley, what exactly did I do to make you so angry with me? I think the board has a block feature (most boards do) if I bother you that much.
I’m far from angry, my friend. To be honest, I’m pretty amused.
I’m suggesting that your story doesn’t add up and that there might be some here who aren’t finding it to be credible. Earlier, I tried to back off a bit and just let you dig yourself deeper, but I’m not always so good at that kind of massive self control. My apologies.
You seem to be a smart guy. Work on your backstory, keep posting, and I will do my best to stop needling you.
By the way, I know nothing about your avatar. It certainly didn’t trigger me. You should put it back up. Maybe then, you can explain the story behind it, too.
The avatar was just AI, and the prompt was “typical Utah Mormon guy.”
As someone who has taken five bar exams…I think they are kind of a waste of life. - Utah Court Rules comment
I’m far from angry, my friend. To be honest, I’m pretty amused.
I’m suggesting that your story doesn’t add up and that there might be some here who aren’t finding it to be credible. Earlier, I tried to back off a bit and just let you dig yourself deeper, but I’m not always so good at that kind of massive self control. My apologies.
You seem to be a smart guy. Work on your backstory, keep posting, and I will do my best to stop needling you.
By the way, I know nothing about your avatar. It certainly didn’t trigger me. You should put it back up. Maybe then, you can explain the story behind it, too.
The avatar was just AI, and the prompt was “typical Utah Mormon guy.”
I realized, in those four minutes, that I was thinking deeply about a companion from Norway who was the only good companion I had. So good, I wanted to also learn his native language (I thought the gift of tongues was real and wanted to take advantage of it). I typed Norwegian instead of Netherlands.
I hang my head in ultimate shame and unworthiness, I prostrate myself before you and beg for your forgiveness.
How long were you and he (the Norwegian) companions for?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
I realized, in those four minutes, that I was thinking deeply about a companion from Norway who was the only good companion I had. So good, I wanted to also learn his native language (I thought the gift of tongues was real and wanted to take advantage of it). I typed Norwegian instead of Netherlands.
I hang my head in ultimate shame and unworthiness, I prostrate myself before you and beg for your forgiveness.
How long were you and he (the Norwegian) companions for?
Two months. How were your companions, normal?
As someone who has taken five bar exams…I think they are kind of a waste of life. - Utah Court Rules comment
Home Teaching was a "forcing" issue for me. I was a more than average HT in terms of numbers, but was becoming more and more stressed by it.
After several years of inactivity in a small struggling branch where my wife was still an active and believing member, I felt sorry for the president and asked if there was any non-spiritual way I could help him. He knew both my state of disbelief and my breadth and depth of experience, so I hoped he might ask me to take on some purely admin stuff. Instead, he emailed me to ask if I would accept a HT assignment!
I replied that I would not, and explained why. Imagine a member asks me a question about almost anything. Do you want me to lie, or is it better if I tell them what I really believe? Needless to say, that ended the conversation. He knew I would not lie, and the alternative was not palatable.
I never served a mission, but I supported my son on his, including encouragement when things got tough.
Running this over in my mind, I think I've conflated some events, but I don't think I've done too much violence to the truth.
I'll forgive any accuracies, I suspect it is near enough to "facts" for the purpose of our discussion.
I don't envy your position. Probably not as upright as I should have been, but I was able to keep most of my disbelief buried until my wife was ready to call it as well (a story for another time but she, and really only she, knew where I stood). I was still serving in the EQ presidency the day we called it quits. Now I had intentionally opted for the more administrative duties when possible. It is a bit corny to type out but I've always derived a fair bit of enjoyment from the service elements of the work and so it was fairly easy to keep myself occupied. Some of that is directly related to having accommodating leaderships.
Given the kind of HT that was needed in our smaller branches I'm surprised your president wasn't more open to you serving anyway. 90% of my visits were much more welfare check than Sunday school lesson, but that may have been more of a regional thing. What a great disservice to the people in your branch that likely could have benefited from a kind face and a heartfelt visit.
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"A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work and his play, his labour and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his recreation." -L.P. Jacks
Home Teaching was a "forcing" issue for me. I was a more than average HT in terms of numbers, but was becoming more and more stressed by it.
After several years of inactivity in a small struggling branch where my wife was still an active and believing member, I felt sorry for the president and asked if there was any non-spiritual way I could help him. He knew both my state of disbelief and my breadth and depth of experience, so I hoped he might ask me to take on some purely admin stuff. Instead, he emailed me to ask if I would accept a HT assignment!
I replied that I would not, and explained why. Imagine a member asks me a question about almost anything. Do you want me to lie, or is it better if I tell them what I really believe? Needless to say, that ended the conversation. He knew I would not lie, and the alternative was not palatable.
I never served a mission, but I supported my son on his, including encouragement when things got tough.
Running this over in my mind, I think I've conflated some events, but I don't think I've done too much violence to the truth.
Yeah, the service aspect of LDS culture is a highlight and one of the reasons I didn’t jump ship right after (or during) my mission. The bad stuff the church does outweighs the good, without question, but at the local level it’s usually just regular people doing what they believe to be good, and I can get behind that. (Though, you don’t need a church for that.)
As someone who has taken five bar exams…I think they are kind of a waste of life. - Utah Court Rules comment
How long were you and he (the Norwegian) companions for?
Two months. How were your companions, normal?
So after learning to speak Dutch at the MTC you then picked up Norwegian in 8 weeks in the spare time you had when not speaking Dutch, to the point you were pretty good at it. That’s impressive. But also not true. Right?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
