truth dancer wrote:I think garments were originally designed to thwart sexuality and desire... sex was about procreation, spreading seed an all that.
I'm glad for those LDS guys who find garmets on women attractive. I think it is the rare exception.
I'm also glad for those women who like wearing them. I think this too is an exception.
With garments, sexuality becomes reduced to the short time of actual intimacy whereas without them, intimacy becomes part of daily life and can be a beautiful strenghening, bonding facet of a relationship.
In other words, rather than stifle any sexual desire, I think it is healthy and beneficial to embrace it in appropriate ways.
No disagreement here!
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
OUT OF MY MISERY wrote:T. M. I. in these lasts posts....
Okay
I have heard two different things. Number one now it is okay to take 'em off when .......sex is on ones mind
But I have also heard that garmies are never supposed to be removed unless bathing...or swimming???
Which is it ????
on or off....or can you wear these things whenever your heart desires...like when you know people are doing garmie checks???
When I went through the temple in 1986, I was instructed that you were to wear the garments day and night. This is the question they actually ask you when you get your temple recommend.
Here are the exceptions I was told, in the temple when I received my own endowments, of when it is appropriate to remove garments:
1. Bathing or swimming
2. Going to the doctor, or exercising in a public place where you are changing clothes, such as a gym.
liz3564 wrote:Here are the exceptions I was told, in the temple when I received my own endowments, of when it is appropriate to remove garments:
1. Bathing or swimming
2. Going to the doctor, or exercising in a public place where you are changing clothes, such as a gym.
3. During intimate times with spouse.
Here are some 'official' rules in the CHI (1998 version) that may help clear up any confusion (all bold mine for emphasis):
Endowed members should wear the temple garment both day and night. They should not remove it, either entirely or partially, to work in the yard or for other activities that can reasonably be done with the garment worn properly beneath the clothing. Nor should they remove it to lounge around the home in swimwear or immodest clothing. When they must remove the garment, such as for swimming, they should put it back on as soon as possible.
As for other particulars (like bathing, sex, etc.), such are generally left to the discretion of the member:
Members should be guided by these principles and the Holy Spirit to answer for themselves personal questions about wearing and caring for the garment.
Hope this helps.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
Well the answers kinda helped but I guess I am still with truth Dancer on this one...Garmies are probably the best form of
birth control....cause I cannot imagine them being sexy for a second....but since I have never worn them...maybe they are sexy...and I have been missing smething...
Basically though they are not supposed to ever come off........
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
OUT OF MY MISERY wrote:Well the answers kinda helped but I guess I am still with truth Dancer on this one...Garmies are probably the best form of birth control....cause I cannot imagine them being sexy for a second....but since I have never worn them...maybe they are sexy...and I have been missing smething...
Basically though they are not supposed to ever come off........
Well they must not be that effective on birth control as TBM families have lots of kids.
Really I like TD but I think she is putting her own negativity to others that just is not there. Most active LDS find garments just no big deal.
Orr... maybe, just maybe, women feel more comfortable sharing their difficulties concerning sexuality and garments with a female counselor than they do with a male priesthood member or leader.
I mean seriously, how many intimate conversations have you had with women concerning their sexual desire, intimate garment wearing, and the like? I'm hoping the answer is only one. ;-)
I'm not saying many women do not go along with garment wearing. I'm suggesting it doesn't add to a healthy romantic or intimate relationship.
OUT OF MY MISERY wrote:Well the answers kinda helped but I guess I am still with truth Dancer on this one...Garmies are probably the best form of birth control....cause I cannot imagine them being sexy for a second....but since I have never worn them...maybe they are sexy...and I have been missing smething...
Basically though they are not supposed to ever come off........
Well they must not be that effective on birth control as TBM families have lots of kids.
Really I like TD but I think she is putting her own negativity to others that just is not there. Most active LDS find garments just no big deal.
Curelom dung.
Just like the FLDS women don't mind wearing their long dresses and nappy long hair.
Women desire to dress sexy, it makes them feel sexy.. they see other women wearing sexier things that are verbotten for them and they long for it..
truth dancer wrote:I mean seriously, how many intimate conversations have you had with women concerning their sexual desire, intimate garment wearing, and the like? I'm hoping the answer is only one. ;-)
Huh? I thought that married couples could have more than one such conversation if they wanted.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"