The Origin of FAIR/MAD

[_harmony]

I, too, saved the whole thing to my hard drive. I'm sure Calrobinson will be deleting the entire thing just as soon as Juliann tells her to.

Do you really think she'd do that?

In a heartbeat.

[_Ray A]

Quinn has stated before, on multiple occasions, that he believes he was "ousted" from the Church via marching orders issued by BKP. You can read about some of his thoughts on this at pbs.org, in his interview with Helen Whitney.

I don't care what Quinn has said about Boyd Packer, I know what he said since I've been reading his comments about this since 1979. I want to know what D. Michael Quinn thinks about your and Rollo's present smear campaign against Daniel Peterson and whether or not he approves of this. My guess is that he would not approve of this. My guess is that Quinn would be above direct, personal and prolongated attacks like this.

[_Ray A]

I think that's a terrific idea, Ray. You go right ahead and ask D. Michael Quinn what he thinks about the fact that Daniel Peterson was telling everyone on the FAIRboard that he (I.e., DCP) had "good reason to believe" that people, including Quinn's SP, were talking about his sexual orientation.

Let's find the man, and let's get the facts. We have the accused. Now we need to hear from the supposed accuser.

[_Ray A]

Quinn has stated before, on multiple occasions, that he believes he was "ousted" from the Church via marching orders issued by BKP. You can read about some of his thoughts on this at pbs.org, in his interview with Helen Whitney.

In regard to the PBS interview you're talking about, this is what Quinn said about Packer:

With due credit to Elder Packer, even though it was clear in that interview that I had with him that we were at polar opposites on this issue of dealing with uncomfortable evidence in the past, I got the job in the department of history at Brigham Young University and I eventually was advanced to full professor, even though there were criticisms from him, privately and publicly, about the kind of history that I was doing. So you have to give him that credit, that he did not intervene to prevent my being hired; he did not intervene to prevent my being given tenure or being advanced to full professor.

http://www.pbs.org/Mormons/interviews/quinn.html

[_barrelomonkeys]

I am so confused. I thought this thread was about Murphy!?

[_Daniel Peterson]

It's entirely possible that Quinn will say some pretty negative things about me. He already did in the preface to the revised edition of his Early Mormonism and the Magic World View.

I would be enormously surprised, though, if he thinks that I outed him as gay.

[_Ray A]

I am so confused. I thought this thread was about Murphy!?

I will do a separate thread on this when I have more time. I want to know what Quinn really thinks about all this, and I'm going to be asking Scratch some searching questions about his role as a self-assumed "defender" and "spokesperson" for Quinn on these matters.

[_James Clifford Miller]

I am so confused. I thought this thread was about Murphy!?

I will do a separate thread on this when I have more time. I want to know what Quinn really thinks about all this, and I'm going to be asking Scratch some searching questions about his role as a self-assumed "defender" and "spokesperson" for Quinn on these matters.

The thread *IS* about Murphy, Ray. Your post above is what Juliann at MADB would be calling a thread derailing. No, wait, she only does that if a critic makes a particularly effective post.

Be that as it may, what do you think about Juliann's deliberate and documented lying in the Murphy thread?

And do you think Juliann will get Calmoriah (or whoever the ZLMB owner is) to delete the thread at ZLMB to destroy the evidence?

And, do you think Juliann or DCP will bring this up over at MADB? One wonders if they might refrain because it'd be so easy for people get curious and then log on here and read that spectacularly damning thread evidence. And THEN what would the readers think of Juliann and DCP?

James Clifford Miller
millerjamesc@cox.net

[_CaliforniaKid]

Sweet mother of mercy. Who would have thought the origins of the fairboard could have been so ignoble?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

My guess is that Quinn would be above direct, personal and prolongated attacks like this.

I agree. Mike Quinn would not engage in the type of rumor mill directed towards him and his personal life.