Evolution For Coggies

[_LCD2YOU]

LCD2YOU,

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Perhaps you’re familiar with these websites.

Bible Contradictions

A List of Biblical Contradictions

Freedom From Religion

More Examples of Biblical Contradictions

101 Clear Contradictions

Of course there are many more.

Having said that, as you most likely know, every religious organization of any size has its websites to defend some slant on its religion.

Let the buyer beware.

JAK

Thank you JAK,

Yes I am very familiar with them. It helps when one needs to diffuse the "Bible is Perfect Crowd".

I've seen Coggins7 and his ilk before. Refute argumentts with the same unsupported claims or circular logic is bunk.

That he has beliefs is fine. I have beliefs. What I strenuously object to is when someone says their beliefs in some unknown entity are so right that the laws this deity gives them supercedes human law is when I get upset.

[_Dr. Shades]

Evolution is not incompatible with LDS doctrine in any way.

Ever been through the temple ceremony?

Yep. No conflicts.

Oh, really? So, when the ceremony shows the casting out from the Garden of Eden, at what point in the evolution of life on earth did that take place?

And when did Adam and Eve actually live, and did they have parents? What does the theory of evolution say? What does the temple ceremony say?

[_JAK]

Earlier man invented the gods and later invented God in the image of himself. And the invention of gods took place relatively recently in the history of man.

Does the fact that this purely speculative secularist explanatory template has not the slightest shred of historical evidence to support it mean anything to anyone here?

Early man surely invented a great deal and added much around the central concepts, but the core, primal motifs, symbols, and patterns are another story altogether.

Quote:JAK
Earlier man invented the gods and later invented God in the image of himself. And the invention of gods took place relatively recently in the history of man.


Coggins7:
Does the fact that this purely speculative secularist explanatory template has not the slightest shred of historical evidence to support it mean anything to anyone here?

Wrong.
Evolution of humanoids and humans is well documented. It’s not speculation in science. And it has evidence to support. Evolution of species on planet earth is accepted by virtually all scientists today. Those with blind faith may wish the facts away, but such people are on the loosing side or accumulated information and knowledge.

Coggins7:
Early man surely invented a great deal and added much around the central concepts, but the core, primal motifs, symbols, and patterns are another story altogether.

Wrong.
The “another story” is ancient myth. It’s unreliable. The myth-makers of earlier times were ignorant of today’s known evidence. They substituted made up gods to explain what they didn’t know. As time passed, many gods were reduced to few gods. And, historically all those inventions of the gods eventually came to the myth YOU have been indoctrinated to accept.

There is no more evidence for God (in the singular) than there was for gods in the plural. And in ancient times, who could look at the sun and not see a god?

You see, Coggins7, mythology began to emerge as pre-historic man began to see beyond his own existence, as he began to develop an awareness of the reality of things and life forms which were different from himself.

Every evidence demonstrates that cultural myths were invented by the emerging intellect of early humans.

See these websites:

Learn about Early Man

Early Man in North America

JAK

[_moksha]

Coggins, what is your position on Temple work for the Neanderthals?







by the way, has Shades ordered those smillies yet???

[_JAK]

Evolution is not incompatible with LDS doctrine in any way.

Ever been through the temple ceremony?

Yep. No conflicts.

Oh, really? So, when the ceremony shows the casting out from the Garden of Eden, at what point in the evolution of life on earth did that take place?

And when did Adam and Eve actually live, and did they have parents? What does the theory of evolution say? What does the temple ceremony say?

The exchange is like the behavior of the ostrich.

The phrase: “Yep. No conflict” is not the slightest refutation to Shades’ rejoinder. Of course there is conflict

Creation myths are incompatible with the modern science of evolution.

No culture which developed any creation myth had the slightest understanding of the age of the planet earth or the many species of life forms which had come and gone before the myth-makers used stories as an effort to explain that which they did not understand.

Likely, the myth-makers themselves knew they were making up a story. But since it sold and since the political powers like the myths, they became a source of power for the establishment as well. God ordained the emperors and kings they argued. So the God myths were advantageous to the emperors and kings.

The few with literacy skills were employed by those in power to assist in controlling the masses. Myths served them well. After a few generations, the myths because accepted beliefs.

However, today, we can know all that historical development if we choose to be informed. For many ignorance is bliss. And they prefer ignorance to information.

None of the religious myths we can study today have credibility or reliability.

JAK

[_JAK]

Coggins, what is your position on Temple work for the Neanderthals?

It might be helpful for Coggins7 to read a little about Neanderthals.

Neanderthal

Human Evolution Index

Nomo neanderthalensis

archaeological evidence revealed that the earliest Neanderthals had lived in Europe about 200,000 years ago.

JAK

[_The Nehor]

Coggins, what is your position on Temple work for the Neanderthals?







by the way, has Shades ordered those smillies yet???

Different world....someone else's problem.

:)

[_Gazelam]

LCD2YOU,

Which if true (and it isn't) means that nobody ate. There were no carnivores as if they ate meat, then something had to die to feed them. Which begs the question, did lions, tigers and bears (oh my!) even have serated teeth? If this creator god gave them claws and teeth for eating meat before the fall, it seems as if this god was setting man up to fail.

But here's another rub, plants are alive, right? So what did anyone eat? Did this creator god have a soup of amino acids, enzymes and vitamins for the creatures to eat?

I have no idea what the pre/post design of carnivores consisted of. Perhaps the tools grew in after the fall, I dunno.

I've heard that Orson Pratt specualted on what food in heaven will be like. I have no idea what fuel source a celestialized body runs on, if indeed it needs any at all.

Was the fruit of the tree literal or figurative?

[_asbestosman]

Coggins, what is your position on Temple work for the Neanderthals?

Different world....someone else's problem.

Last I heard, Neanderthals were our cousins, not our ancestors. I guess that means someone else can do their temple work.

[_asbestosman]

I have no idea what the pre/post design of carnivores consisted of. Perhaps the tools grew in after the fall, I dunno.

I've heard that Orson Pratt specualted on what food in heaven will be like. I have no idea what fuel source a celestialized body runs on, if indeed it needs any at all.

Was the fruit of the tree literal or figurative?

Yannno, if things back then couldn't die, then why would they even need food in the first place? It's not like they'd starve to death or anything.

On that note, I wonder if Adam used to have chloroform--I mean chlorophyll running through his veins before he ate the fruit.