Pokatator wrote:I think "burning in the bosom" is a trite and over used phrase used by the Mormon community and is not used by any other group.
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No doubt. Even worse is "nourish and strengthen our bodies." Of course, you have to ask god to do that because food doesn't know how to do it on its own. It'll just sit there and rot in your gut unless it gets a good god jumpstart.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
why me wrote:I know of no other instance where groups of people use such a word.
Well I guess you need to get out more, then. Or read a book. Or actually read runtu's reply to your first assertion.
I don't see anywhere that he mentions other groups that use the word. But he did give a good definition. I only saying that the word is used too much by exmos. Who started using that word first? Was it Bob McCue? I think so.
Please tell me you're joking. I knew the term cognitive dissonance long before I met Bob McCue. As I said, it's an apt description of a phase in the process of coming to grips with the reality of Mormonism or any other belief system.
How about "confirmation bias"? Did that phrase exist before Juliann was born?
why me wrote:I would also have to write that the words miscog dis is a postmodern concept acquistioned by post and exmormons to make them feel better about leaving the church. It gives some sort of explanation about why they feel the way they do. It gives them a sort of validation and explanation about why members also stay in the church.
The word has been abused by exmos.
Cognitive dissonance is what happens when two versions of reality collide. In other words, your beliefs about one thing conflict with your beliefs about another thing. Despite your apparent disdain for us exmormons, that is exactly what we ran up against. Two conflicting things cannot be true, so we must decide which one is right, or we experience a great deal of psychic pain.
I find your attitude rather disheartening. Rather than attempting to understand what we think and why we feel the way we do, you see us as disingenuous and nonspecifically "bad" people who have to justify the beliefs we don't really believe way down deep.
In what way does dismissing the experiences and feelings of other people validate your faith in the church?
I can understand what and how exmos think but I cannot understand the hyper use of the word. My gosh, this word is the favorite catch word of post and exmos. They use and abuse it. It can sort of give them victim's status. I know of no other instance where groups of people use such a word.
When it comes to god, I suppose that this word can be used by all who believed and now don't believe. Likewise for excatholics, exmethodists etc. But I don't see them using such a word. Only exmos seem to swim in the word and actually enjoy it.
LOTS of people deal with cog dis. Imagine an individual living in an abusive environment -- often times these individuals have an internal reality that is quite different from the external reality of the abusive environment. When these worlds collide it's traumatic.
Everyone deals with it. Sometimes in the little things in life -- sometimes the biggies:
why me wrote:I would also have to write that the words miscog dis is a postmodern concept acquistioned by post and exmormons to make them feel better about leaving the church. It gives some sort of explanation about why they feel the way they do. It gives them a sort of validation and explanation about why members also stay in the church.
The word has been abused by exmos.
There's a new movie coming out:
The Boy in the Mormon Bubble starring Why Me.
I don't consider myself living in a bubble. But this word is used so much that I do think that it needs to be retired.
I think a man that is a Catholic that has an avatar of Joseph Smith might need to read up on some cog dis. :)
why me wrote:I don't consider myself living in a bubble. But this word is used so much that I do think that it needs to be retired.
How about a deal? We stop saying "cognitive dissonance" and Mormons stop saying "I know the church is true." After all, that phrase is used way more often than cognitive dissonance. It's high time for it to be retired.
why me wrote:I would also have to write that the words miscog dis is a postmodern concept acquistioned by post and exmormons to make them feel better about leaving the church. It gives some sort of explanation about why they feel the way they do. It gives them a sort of validation and explanation about why members also stay in the church.
The word has been abused by exmos.
There's a new movie coming out:
The Boy in the Mormon Bubble starring Why Me.
I don't consider myself living in a bubble. But this word is used so much that I do think that it needs to be retired.
I think a man that is a Catholic that has an avatar of Joseph Smith might need to read up on some cog dis. :)
why me has apparently found a way to create cognitive assonance instead, living a double life in both camps and somehow making that mesh. I don't know if that's like a gay man trying to stay in an LDS marriage with children, while still seeing men on the side, but something in the brain has to switch in order to make it happen.
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
the road to hana wrote:why me has apparently found a way to create cognitive assonance instead, living a double life in both camps and somehow making that mesh. I don't know if that's like a gay man trying to stay in an LDS marriage with children, while still seeing men on the side, but something in the brain has to switch in order to make it happen.
I think to live that kind of life, I'd have to compartmentalize a lot.
the road to hana wrote:why me has apparently found a way to create cognitive assonance instead, living a double life in both camps and somehow making that mesh. I don't know if that's like a gay man trying to stay in an LDS marriage with children, while still seeing men on the side, but something in the brain has to switch in order to make it happen.
I think to live that kind of life, I'd have to compartmentalize a lot.
Maybe why me sees himself as only socially and culturally Catholic, and theologically Mormon. I don't know. But the brain has to twist itself into a pretzel to live two different lives, I'd imagine.
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.