Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:Oh, it's not any of my business. I was merely asking a rhetorical question. The Mopologists do not want to admit that they utilize---to quote Maklelan---an "elitist" cabal in order to accomplish their rather nasty, sadistic, and attack-oriented ends.


So you don't actually want an answer to your question, you were simply trying to use this anecdote to smear DCP, regardless of the actual situation. Interesting revelation, that. And right from the horse's mouth.


What question, LoaP? That DCP got "comped"? Well, he did. He said so himself. As did Maklelan. How this is "smearing" is anybody's guess.

You know, LoaP, you really aren't a very nice person, despite your silly rhetoric about cloud-gazing, puppies, loving your mom, and whatever else. Why on earth would I want to go to lunch with an individual like you? I think that if you word really hard at being nice, however, I might be persuaded to change my mind.

The last time I bought books for a class? Many years ago. Of course I know that some books are very expensive. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't think there's anything necessarily interesting, spooky, or conspiratorial about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with DCP getting a 50% discount on a book at a conference. Heck, I don't even think there is anything wrong with him telling an impressive narrative about all of his connections and influences in relation to this book.

However, I *do* think it is very interesting that LoaP, Lamanite, and Maklelan would all flip out over somebody noting that all of this is "interesting."


The flipping out (some creative labeling there. Something you employ all too often) regarded the inanity of the charges.


And what do you think the "charges" were? That DCP got "comped"? Well, he did! He said so himself, as did Maklelan!

Or are you more concerned that he may have been "comped" due to his status as a Mopologist? If that's the case, then I have news for you: DCP and other FARMSites get "comped" all the time. While this might not have been an instance of this, I can assure you that FARMS writes get "comped" books on a fairly regular basis.

Would you care to explain how that's "inane"?

Just above you stated "The Mopologists do not want to admit that they utilize---to quote Maklelan---an "elitist" cabal in order to accomplish their rather nasty, sadistic, and attack-oriented ends." Of course, given that your example did not sustain your undergirding argument, we disagreed with you.


What "argument"? The OP was inquisitive in nature, LoaP.

Mak went as far as answering the question with specifics which showed that your thread premise was stupid. at that, you backtracked and insisted that this was merely a "rhetorical question." Utter nonsense.


Wow! "Utter nonsense"? You seem rather angry and bitter, LoaP.
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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Mister Scratch wrote:I'm not expecting any evidence, LoaP. You see, when the chips are down, Mopologists always refuse to provide evidence. This is true in the case of the 2nd Watson Letter, and the mysterious Signature Books "memo."


Another red herring, Scratch? What does the Watson letter and the mysterious memo have to do with Daniel buying a book at half price?
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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Scratch appears completely incapable of uttering the words "I was wrong" to Dan Peterson or anyone speaking in the defense of Dan Peterson or the Church, apologetics, etc. I have seen this behavior in the past. During one of his stalking escapades he came across a comment on a blog that was disrespectful of LDS Church leadership, called "the brethren." However, despite Scratch's scolding I pointed out that the comment in question was made by the person above me, not by me. Did scratch say "oops, my mistake?" Hardly.

This reluctance to show any sign of vulnerability could provide hours of fun for anyone interested in doing the Psychoanalytic Scratch method of antimopologetics. .
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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harmony wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:I'm not expecting any evidence, LoaP. You see, when the chips are down, Mopologists always refuse to provide evidence. This is true in the case of the 2nd Watson Letter, and the mysterious Signature Books "memo."


Another red herring, Scratch? What does the Watson letter and the mysterious memo have to do with Daniel buying a book at half price?


This is actually two red herrings. A brilliant stroke, that.
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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harmony wrote:How is my statement a personal insult?



Don't play stupid. Or are you not playing?
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:That has nothing to do with the thread in question, here. Maklelan has shown that your insinuations, attempts at nasty rumor-mongering through sheer invention, was utterly unfounded. Heads you win, tails I lose? Typical of the Scratch Shuffle.


How is asking about DCP's 50% discount "nasty rumor mongering"? How could that possibly harm him in any way? Feel free to explain. I'll be waiting patiently for you to enlighten me.
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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harmony wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:I'm not expecting any evidence, LoaP. You see, when the chips are down, Mopologists always refuse to provide evidence. This is true in the case of the 2nd Watson Letter, and the mysterious Signature Books "memo."


Another red herring, Scratch? What does the Watson letter and the mysterious memo have to do with Daniel buying a book at half price?


No, no---you're right: it doesn't have anything to do with DCP and the half-price book. It has to do with the fact that Maklelan won't provide evidence. I was merely observing that this seems to be common in Mopologetics.
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:Scratch appears completely incapable of uttering the words "I was wrong" to Dan Peterson or anyone speaking in the defense of Dan Peterson or the Church, apologetics, etc. I have seen this behavior in the past. During one of his stalking escapades he came across a comment on a blog that was disrespectful of LDS Church leadership, called "the brethren." However, despite Scratch's scolding I pointed out that the comment in question was made by the person above me, not by me. Did scratch say "oops, my mistake?" Hardly.

This reluctance to show any sign of vulnerability could provide hours of fun for anyone interested in doing the Psychoanalytic Scratch method of antimopologetics. .


Dear Blair: I'm terribly sorry about that old mistake. I misread what was, to me, a rather confusing blog format and incorrectly attributed a criticism of the Brethren to you. You have my sincere apologies.
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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Mister Scratch wrote:What question, LoaP? That DCP got "comped"? Well, he did. He said so himself. As did Maklelan. How this is "smearing" is anybody's guess.


Yes, this is why the very thread itself is dumb. It is intended to show something of a devious nature going on regarding Dan Peterson and "mopologetics," as you yourself noted above. So I completely agree with you here:

You know, LoaP, you really aren't a very nice person, despite your silly rhetoric about cloud-gazing, puppies, loving your mom, and whatever else. Why on earth would I want to go to lunch with an individual like you? I think that if you word really hard at being nice, however, I might be persuaded to change my mind. How this information is "smearing" is anybody's guess. That it was intended to smear, however, was noted by you.

And what do you think the "charges" were? That DCP got "comped"? Well, he did! He said so himself, as did Maklelan!


So why on earth did you bring it up in the first place? As you noted above, it was a rhetorical question geared at showing how "the Mopologists do not want to admit that they utilize---to quote Maklelan---an 'elitist' cabal in order to accomplish their rather nasty, sadistic, and attack-oriented ends." (Your words.)

Or are you more concerned that he may have been "comped" due to his status as a Mopologist? If that's the case, then I have news for you: DCP and other FARMSites get "comped" all the time. While this might not have been an instance of this, I can assure you that FARMS writes get "comped" books on a fairly regular basis.


I've been "comped" on books before in the form of both discounts and gifts. Shock and horror.

Would you care to explain how that's "inane"?


Yes. By definition, this thread is inane.

Empty. Insubstantial. Silly. Lacking significance, meaning, or point.

What "argument"? The OP was inquisitive in nature, LoaP.


The Scratch Shuffle!

Can you tell me (though you already have) why you started this thread then? Perhaps you can help me understand, since your own declarations before now have not. Or instead you can spin a witty insult my way. Shuffle on!

Wow! "Utter nonsense"? You seem rather angry and bitter, LoaP.


I may seem angry and bitter to you, but such would be a subjective judgment on your part and certainly has no bearing on reality; only on reality in Scratchland.

Or I could respond saying "you seem rather defensive, passive-aggressive, loony, dishonest and conspiratorial." Wow!
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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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Mister Scratch wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:That has nothing to do with the thread in question, here. Maklelan has shown that your insinuations, attempts at nasty rumor-mongering through sheer invention, was utterly unfounded. Heads you win, tails I lose? Typical of the Scratch Shuffle.


How is asking about DCP's 50% discount "nasty rumor mongering"? How could that possibly harm him in any way? Feel free to explain. I'll be waiting patiently for you to enlighten me.



As per your own stated objective, asking about the discount was merely rhetorical, the actual point being to demonstrate how "the Mopologists do not want to admit that they utilize---to quote Maklelan---an 'elitist' cabal in order to accomplish their rather nasty, sadistic, and attack-oriented ends." (your words.)

So, what is the purpose of this thread? It has been shown that DCP's discount is a common occurrence at such conferences, that there was nothing particularly significant in the discount, and that there was nothing of a devious nature going on. So why this thread? (Quick, call me "angry" again so you don't have to provide an actual answer! Do the Scratch Shuffle!)
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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