Dear John Gee

[_William Schryver]

Larsen:

Maybe you could help a brother out ...

Sorry, "bro," but you've become far too heavy for me.

I desire to do no more than endorse what Dan has already said:

Somebody who knows the Book of Abraham and the issues surrounding it will have little if any problem, when reading some of Professor Gee's materials, recognizing when he's addressing those issues. It's pretty obvious. And he does it quite regularly.

[_harmony]

Have I mentioned lately that you are one of the ugliest people I have ever encountered in cyberspace? And, as difficult as it is to believe, you're getting worse with each passing month. Your poor mother must look down on what you've become with an all-consuming shame.

Oh, I am so hurt... so brokenhearted... so unmitigatingly sad...

Oh, wait. It's Will... hell's bells, Will... when will you get it through your thick head that it would be impossible for me to care less about you and your thoughts?

Do not ever mention my mother. Ever. She does not deserve to be contaminated with your filth.

Be sure to post Dr Gee's paper/presentation where he connects the Book of Abraham with mainstream Egyptology. I'm sure some of us will be overwhelmingly happy to see it.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Be sure to post Dr Gee's paper/presentation where he connects the Book of Abraham with mainstream Egyptology. I'm sure some of us will be overwhelmingly happy to see it.

Don't lift a finger. Just settle into your pillows and demand that it be brought to you.

If you really cared at all about this, really -- "overwhelming happiness," indeed -- you'd bestir yourself and show some initiative.

[Guest]

Examples of Gee's implicit sectarian apologetics:

Prophets, Initiation and the Egyptian Temple

Oracle by Image: Coffin Text 103 in Context

Dreams and Angels in Ancient Egypt

Gee defends traditional marriage:

The Family in the Third (and Second) Millennium...BC: Where We've Been

Love and Marriage in the Ancient World

Abstract: Despite recent politically motivated attempts to show otherwise, love and affection are closely associated with marriage in ancient Egypt and ancient Mesopotamia. Love or affection was a normal an [sic] expected part of marriage in ancient Egypt and a factor in entering into marriage in every account preserved.



John Gee fuels up after engaging in some heavy-duty implicit sectarian apologetics in Toronto, Canada, October 2008.

[_harmony]

Be sure to post Dr Gee's paper/presentation where he connects the Book of Abraham with mainstream Egyptology. I'm sure some of us will be overwhelmingly happy to see it.

Don't lift a finger. Just settle into your pillows and demand that it be brought to you.

If you really cared at all about this, really -- "overwhelming happiness," indeed -- you'd bestir yourself and show some initiative.

I wasn't referring to myself, Daniel.

Good grief.

[_Morrissey]

Abstract: Despite recent politically motivated attempts to show otherwise, love and affection are closely associated with marriage in ancient Egypt and ancient Mesopotamia. Love or affection was a normal an [sic] expected part of marriage in ancient Egypt and a factor in entering into marriage in every account preserved.

So what? From where I sit, if love and affection are important components of marriage, all the better reason to allow loving, affectionate same-sex couples to marry.

As a general rule, I fail to see how the mores, laws, practices, values, etc. of ancient societies are in any way relevant to 21st century society. Slavery was also an important part of ancient Egyptian society. Should this imply then that slavery is appropriate for 21st century society?

(Tom, this is not addressed to you personally. I am just using your post as a launching point for making a related point.) (And, oh by the way, I am sure that Gee's motives in the same sex marriage debate derive from pure motivations, unlike those of social progressives. )

[_William Schryver]

dissonance:

Do not ever mention my mother. Ever. She does not deserve to be contaminated with your filth.

If she’s half the noble soul you make her out to be, then what she really doesn’t deserve is to be so thoroughly shamed by a daughter like you. You have become an enemy of righteousness. You can no longer discern right from wrong, purity from filth, inspiration from deception. You manifest none of the best qualities of womanhood and discipleship. With no compunction whatsoever, you speak evil of the Lord’s anointed, and you actively seek to destroy the faith of the humble believers in Christ who seek joy and find meaning in the restoration of the gospel.

You have fully qualified yourself for the just cursings of the Lord:

Cursed are all those that shall lift up the heel against mine anointed, saith the Lord, and cry they have sinned when they have not sinned before me, saith the Lord, but have done that which was meet in mine eyes, and which I commanded them.

But those who cry transgression do it because they are the servants of sin, and are the children of disobedience themselves.

And those who swear falsely against my servants, that they might bring them into bondage and death—

Wo unto them; because they have offended my little ones they shall be severed from the ordinances of mine house.

Their basket shall not be full, their houses and their barns shall perish, and they themselves shall be despised by those that flattered them.

They shall not have right to the priesthood, nor their posterity after them from generation to generation.

It had been better for them that a millstone had been hanged about their necks, and they drowned in the depth of the sea.

I encourage you to amend your ways before it is everlastingly too late, otherwise you will not be counted among those who, when the Lord returns, will be caught up to meet Him, but will, with the wicked, have cause to weep, and wail, and gnash your teeth in darkness, awaiting with dread the awful wrath of God.

[_William Schryver]

Examples of Gee's implicit sectarian apologetics:

Prophets, Initiation and the Egyptian Temple

Oracle by Image: Coffin Text 103 in Context

Dreams and Angels in Ancient Egypt

Gee defends traditional marriage:

The Family in the Third (and Second) Millennium...BC: Where We've Been

Love and Marriage in the Ancient World

Abstract: Despite recent politically motivated attempts to show otherwise, love and affection are closely associated with marriage in ancient Egypt and ancient Mesopotamia. Love or affection was a normal an [sic] expected part of marriage in ancient Egypt and a factor in entering into marriage in every account preserved.



John Gee fuels up after engaging in some heavy-duty implicit sectarian apologetics in Toronto, Canada, October 2008.

Very little in the linked papers above represents the kind of thing to which Dan and I have alluded.

But I am quite content to permit you and others to continue in your state of ignorance.

After all, it's what you do best.

[_harmony]

Mend your ways before it is everlastingly too late, otherwise you will not be counted among those who, when the Lord returns, will be caught up to meet Him, but will, with the wicked, have cause to weep, and wail, and gnash your teeth in darkness, awaiting with dread the awful wrath of God.

Good grief. You are hilarious. Find someone who cares, and then call them to repentence, Will. All I see is a desperate man with delusions of authority, with no standing and no stewardship. Your attempt at unrighteous dominion is noted though.

PS: my momma is a Baptist. She thinks I'm finally seeing the light.

[_William Schryver]

Mend your ways before it is everlastingly too late, otherwise you will not be counted among those who, when the Lord returns, will be caught up to meet Him, but will, with the wicked, have cause to weep, and wail, and gnash your teeth in darkness, awaiting with dread the awful wrath of God.

Good grief. You are hilarious. Find someone who cares, and then call them to repentence, Will. All I see is a desperate man with delusions of authority, with no standing and no stewardship. Your attempt at unrighteous dominion is noted though.

PS: my momma is a Baptist. She thinks I'm finally seeing the light.

Well, daughter of Eve, there are many of your mothers who are shamed by you.

And your viewing me in much the same manner as you view Joseph Smith and others of the prophets is, in my judgment, a compliment to the posture I assume in reference to you.

My calling you to repentance is a mere formality, of course. I'm quite convinced that you are all but beyond redemption at this juncture of your apostasy. Nevertheless, the formality now dispensed with, nothing but the fulfillment of the curse remains. You've now joined Ray in the line.