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Marcus wrote:
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This is why I harshly call out MG for his deception and lying spirit which he possesses. he stands rebuked and is bereft of any kind of intelligent explanation to support his cause. The Book of Abraham was doomed out of the starting gate and truly is a dead horse -- but we shall beat it over and over until the Mormons mend their ways.
Thank you for noting the gymnast's deception. He indeed stands rebuked!!

Thank you for expressing appreciation in what I've said about MG.

Nothing can save the Book of Abraham. It's utter garbage.
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Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:31 pm
Troll.

The Book of Mormon claims Lehi left Jerusalem in 600 BC and the Book of Abraham claims Egypt was founded in 2300 BC after the flood.

[x] 600 BC
[x] 2300 BC

Both are false.

Are you not the TROLL, MG?
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Thu Aug 28, 2025 9:51 pm
The Book of Abraham contains some essential doctrines taught as truths in the LDS Church:
Doctrines of Mormonism are doctrines of ugly Mormonism and the Mormons can make of that what they will. Extra wives or whatever!

But, when it comes to real HISTORY such as the rise and creation of the nation state of Egypt -- the Mormons can shut their f-ing mouths because they pervert history and truth. Take your Book of Abraham and throw it in the trash where it belongs! I am here to slap the mouth of the Mormon church. SLAP! And Mormon Egyptologists are corrupt liars and betray the ancient Egyptians. SLAP!

The world will not have it.

I will dismiss you, MG, without further argument.

Depart!
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Thu Aug 28, 2025 9:51 pm
It is those doctrines that are primary in the hearts and minds of those that believe in the prophethood of Joseph Smith and the restoration of eternal truths.
So, ancient Egypt was founded by a woman in 2300 BC which is an eternal truth of Mormonism according to Joe Blow Smith and Fanny rolling in the hay behind the barn!

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Shulem wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:52 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 9:51 pm
The Book of Abraham contains some essential doctrines taught as truths in the LDS Church:
Doctrines of Mormonism are doctrines of ugly Mormonism and the Mormons can make of that what they will.
Why did you cut them out? Do they not matter to you? If not, why?

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MG
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Shulem wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:36 pm
Marcus wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:25 pm
Thank you for noting the gymnast's deception. He indeed stands rebuked!!
Thank you for expressing appreciation in what I've said about MG.
My pleasure!
Nothing can save the Book of Abraham. It's utter garbage.
Couldn't agree more.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:31 am
Shulem wrote:
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Doctrines of Mormonism are doctrines of ugly Mormonism and the Mormons can make of that what they will.
Why did you cut them out? Do they not matter to you? If not, why?
The doctrines of Mormonism (that I spliced from your useless post) are Joseph Smith's convoluted understanding of the cult of Christianity which I want no part of. I want no part of a religion that glorifies the story of a father (Abram) who is willing to slay or cut the throat of his own son on an altar of sacrifice to prove his loyalty to the cult! Thus, Jehovah saith something to the effect, "Slit the boy's throat and spill his blood on this altar if you love me." I find the biblical god to be horrifying and frightening, like a bad dream that one wants to desperately escape.

MG, you are living in a hell of your own making.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 9:51 pm
The Book of Abraham contains some essential doctrines taught as truths in the LDS Church:
The LDS Church will be living down the claim of the inferiority of Africans as taught in the Book of Abraham for quite some time. I can eventually see all African converts leaving and missionaries being banned from the continent.

Of course, the Church can always repudiate the Book of Abraham, but they will never issue an apology.
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Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:48 am
The LDS Church will be living down the claim of the inferiority of Africans as taught in the Book of Abraham for quite some time. I can eventually see all African converts leaving and missionaries being banned from the continent.

Of course, the Church can always repudiate the Book of Abraham, but they will never issue an apology.
The Mormons have an incredible history of racism and dislike towards the idea of Africans being elevated to a status wherein they could be admitted to the white man's (MG) priesthood club. Don't even get me started on the likes of Brigham Young. He was a despot.

Thinking of the Mormon priesthood sickens me. And those repugnant oaths I made in the temple -- I've long since denounced. Thank God!

JUST SAY "NO" TO JEHOVAH!

PS. I wonder if Jacob Hansen would murder his own child if God commanded him?
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Re: Vogel Schools Jacob Hansen on Book of Abraham

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Moksha wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:48 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 9:51 pm
The Book of Abraham contains some essential doctrines taught as truths in the LDS Church:
The LDS Church will be living down the claim of the inferiority of Africans as taught in the Book of Abraham for quite some time. I can eventually see all African converts leaving and missionaries being banned from the continent.

Of course, the Church can always repudiate the Book of Abraham, but they will never issue an apology.
I think that the doctrines taught in the Book of Abraham:

Premortal Existence
Council in Heaven and Foreordination
Exaltation and Eternal Progression
Plurality of Gods and Creation "Ex Materia"
Specific Teachings on the Priesthood

…are of primary significance. The side issues that are still being discussed by not only critics but by apologists and other members of the church are there, but the ‘truths of eternity’ consisting of doctrines that ‘taste good’ will most likely not go away. The idea of premortal existence and eternal progression make a lot of sense…innately…to a lot of people. The other doctrines listed provide ‘entry points’ to ‘deeper meaning’ for exploration to those that seek the deep things of God that go beyond the superficial.

Some folks get stuck on the non essentials.

Regards,
MG
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