Husbands/fathers as spiritual leaders in the home

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Limnor wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 29, 2026 10:59 pm
Invoking biblical miracles doesn’t make Joseph Smith’s claims any more credible.
True, except to point out that Joseph's claims/methods of interacting with the divine were not unprecedented.

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Incorrectly translating Egyptian papyri as a means of revelation is unprecedented.

Wouldn’t you agree, shulem?
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Limnor wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 29, 2026 11:18 pm
Incorrectly translating Egyptian papyri as a means of revelation is unprecedented.

Wouldn’t you agree, shulem?
Interacting with the divine with an Iron-banded Jasper with an included screen that displayed parchment was indeed unprecedented but it did send a signal for all leaders to use teleprompters.
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Rivendale wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:33 am
Limnor wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 29, 2026 11:18 pm
Incorrectly translating Egyptian papyri as a means of revelation is unprecedented.

Wouldn’t you agree, shulem?
Interacting with the divine with an Iron-banded Jasper with an included screen that displayed parchment was indeed unprecedented but it did send a signal for all leaders to use teleprompters.
Ha! In all seriousness I think we should remember that critics may single out unique aspects of Mormon history while ignoring the fact that ancient biblical prophets also used physical objects to interact with the divine.

Also important to consider/remember is that visionary experiences, seer stones, and material objects used in divination were culturally familiar artifacts in early 19th-century folk traditions.

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MG 2.0 wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:43 am
Rivendale wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:33 am


Interacting with the divine with an Iron-banded Jasper with an included screen that displayed parchment was indeed unprecedented but it did send a signal for all leaders to use teleprompters.
Ha! In all seriousness I think we should remember that critics may single out unique aspects of Mormon history while ignoring the fact that ancient biblical prophets also used physical objects to interact with the divine.

Also important to consider/remember is that visionary experiences, seer stones, and material objects used in divination were culturally familiar artifacts in early 19th-century folk traditions.

Regards,
MG
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