Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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Jason Bourne wrote:I mean really!!! I do not recall any such level of "The Mormon Factor" when Hatch ran. Oh yea a bit. But not like this.

You know why? People know Romney is a much more viable candidate and actually has a shot at winning. So, all holds are off and religous bigotry will reign free.

We see it here and we will see it more.


Hatch was a vanity candidate. I don't think think Mitt will get past the EV primary voters, but he's not in the same minor league as Hatch.
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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Runtu wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:I mean really!!! I do not recall any such level of "The Mormon Factor" when Hatch ran. Oh yea a bit. But not like this.

You know why? People know Romney is a much more viable candidate and actually has a shot at winning. So, all holds are off and religous bigotry will reign free.

We see it here and we will see it more.


Hatch was a vanity candidate. I don't think think Mitt will get past the EV primary voters, but he's not in the same minor league as Hatch.


EVs will support Mitt because he will be their best choice.

Check this out:


http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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guy sajer wrote:
maklelan wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Yes, Orrin wasn't a strong candidate. He ran in 2000, I think. Bush was the front runner that year, with McCain a strong second. I believe Hatch was even behind Keyes in most polls. Nobody cared about Hatch. The Republican nomination is wide open this year, and Romney has a decent shot at getting it. That's why his dirty laundry is being aired. You think it's bad now, imagine if he actually wins the republican nomination. That's when the mud will really start flying. This is nothing compared to what will be said about him in the fall of 2008.


Imagine if he does. Imagine if he runs against Hillary. We'll have millions of Republicans foaming at the mouth and voting for Hillary because they'd rather have her as president than a Mormon. Those are twisted, twisted priorities.


How's it twisted to prefer Hillary to a Mormon for President?

Is this a partisan political opinion or is there something behind it? Just curious.



I think he meant that it would be odd for conservative republicans to vote for Hillary over Mitt just cause Mitt is a Mormon.
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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maklelan wrote: Imagine if he runs against Hillary. We'll have millions of Republicans foaming at the mouth and voting for Hillary because they'd rather have her as president than a Mormon. Those are twisted, twisted priorities.

Don't think they will actually vote, I suspect they will merely burn crosses, in protest, instead.

by the way, The vitamin and fraudulent herbal and food supplements industries would have given heartily to Senator Hatch.
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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guy sajer wrote:
How's it twisted to prefer Hillary to a Mormon for President?

Is this a partisan political opinion or is there something behind it? Just curious.


The intention of my enigmatic post was to point at the silliness of conservative republican Christians vehemently backing a Democrat like Hillary Clinton only because that option will seem better in their minds than giving the reigns to a Mormon. I understand that your perspective is far to objective and mature to have grasped the nuances and intricacies of the cascading complexities of riddles and contradictions that is my post, but if you try a little less passionately to automatically disagree with everything that Mormons say things will fall into much better order.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
VegasRefugee wrote:Hatch was not a serious candidate, romney has more of a chance. Nuff said.


yes. You see we agree.

Romney has a chance. Thus the floodgates of religous bigotry are open. One woutl have thought that JFK and the Catholic issue over 45 years ago had put such nonesense to rest. Society really has not changed all the much sense then I guess.


the Romney/Kennedy comparison was old ten days before it was uttered from the church PR consultants lips when they spoke to Romney's exploratory committee.
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Runtu wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:I mean really!!! I do not recall any such level of "The Mormon Factor" when Hatch ran. Oh yea a bit. But not like this.

You know why? People know Romney is a much more viable candidate and actually has a shot at winning. So, all holds are off and religous bigotry will reign free.

We see it here and we will see it more.


Hatch was a vanity candidate. I don't think think Mitt will get past the EV primary voters, but he's not in the same minor league as Hatch.


EVs will support Mitt because he will be their best choice.

Check this out:


http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/


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OK, couple of things - Bluehost.com is Mormon owned, Mormon run and is patronized by Mormons...in Utah.

I use it.

Sooo...someone who is acquainted with Bluehost set up this site.

in a possible situation this could be smelling of front group behavior.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Romney has a chance. Thus the floodgates of religous bigotry are open. One woutl have thought that JFK and the Catholic issue over 45 years ago had put such nonesense to rest. Society really has not changed all the much sense then I guess.


I agree. So they guy's Mormon, who cares?

Personally, I'd welcome a businessman with a proven record of success into the White House rather than another lawyer or career politician.
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VegasRefugee wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:
VegasRefugee wrote:Hatch was not a serious candidate, romney has more of a chance. Nuff said.


yes. You see we agree.

Romney has a chance. Thus the floodgates of religous bigotry are open. One woutl have thought that JFK and the Catholic issue over 45 years ago had put such nonesense to rest. Society really has not changed all the much sense then I guess.


the Romney/Kennedy comparison was old ten days before it was uttered from the church PR consultants lips when they spoke to Romney's exploratory committee.


No it was and is not dead and it worked quite well when JFKs brother attempted to play the religous bigotry card.

But Vegas, we know that you are quite fine with applying religous bigotry on a Mormon Candidate. Quite fine with it.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
VegasRefugee wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:
VegasRefugee wrote:Hatch was not a serious candidate, romney has more of a chance. Nuff said.


yes. You see we agree.

Romney has a chance. Thus the floodgates of religous bigotry are open. One woutl have thought that JFK and the Catholic issue over 45 years ago had put such nonesense to rest. Society really has not changed all the much sense then I guess.


the Romney/Kennedy comparison was old ten days before it was uttered from the church PR consultants lips when they spoke to Romney's exploratory committee.


No it was and is not dead and it worked quite well when JFKs brother attempted to play the religous bigotry card.

But Vegas, we know that you are quite fine with applying religous bigotry on a Mormon Candidate. Quite fine with it.


Woudl I be a religious bigot if I did not vote for David Duke?

The attempted comarrison by the way romney and kennedy just does not work. Catholicism and Mormonism are two different coins, not different sides of said coin.

Catholicism is respectable whereas Mormonism is a kooky NRM.

Hypothetical: Kennedy is asked by a reporter a question of catholic principals. In response to this qustion he states "catholics are just like other chrstians in that (insert doctrine here)".

This is a small example of why I do not see the two cantidates in the same frame. Romney is actively playing the religious card. The american public do not like Mormons and for good reason. It is not bigoted to dislike a cantidate based on religion just as it is not bigoted to dislike Tom Cruise because he is a scientologist.
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