The role of critics at MAD

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It's exactly what I am referring to. We do ourselves a great diservice by not taking the hardest questions head on. Given past experience, just because a question gets left unanswered for a while does not mean the LDS Church is suffering in any way.


Ah, now I get you. So what is your opinion of how MAD is currently run, and its stance on vigorously censoring/banning critics?
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Ah, now I get you. So what is your opinion of how MAD is currently run, and its stance on vigorously censoring/banning critics?


They generally do all right though I would agree that there have been at least two or three 'friendly fire' incidents. The rest I don't know enough about to formulate an opinion though judging by the behavior of some on this board, if that same behavior showed itself on the MADB board, I have no problem with such being banned.

I have other disagreements about some subject matter and opinions they won't allow, but it's their board and I can post on those subjects easily enough here or on the other boards I inhabit.

There are those on that board with plenty of capability. I think you should invite them to come out to play. I invite them myself as I find the LDS criticism on this board to be weak. I think we LDS could easily dominate the discussion here and by domination I mean irrefutable argument.
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There are those on that board with plenty of capability. I think you should invite them to come out to play. I invite them myself as I find the LDS criticism on this board to be weak. I think we LDS could easily dominate the discussion here and by domination I mean irrefutable argument.


Now that I would like to see. In fact, I'd just about pay money to see it.

However, I really have given up on serious dialogue with believers. Perhaps you can convince me it's not hopeless.
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There are those on that board with plenty of capability. I think you should invite them to come out to play. I invite them myself as I find the LDS criticism on this board to be weak. I think we LDS could easily dominate the discussion here and by domination I mean irrefutable argument.

Now that I would like to see. In fact, I'd just about pay money to see it.


Why pay money when I am giving you a free show? ;)

However, I really have given up on serious dialogue with believers. Perhaps you can convince me it's not hopeless.


My experience has been that as soon as a critic realizes he is up a creek, he resorts to invective and logical fallacy.

Of course I don't claim to be knowledgable on all subjects, but I do my best.
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beastie wrote:
There are those on that board with plenty of capability. I think you should invite them to come out to play. I invite them myself as I find the LDS criticism on this board to be weak. I think we LDS could easily dominate the discussion here and by domination I mean irrefutable argument.


Now that I would like to see. In fact, I'd just about pay money to see it.

However, I really have given up on serious dialogue with believers. Perhaps you can convince me it's not hopeless.


I've pretty much given up, as well.
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My experience has been that as soon as a critic realizes he is up a creek, he resorts to invective and logical fallacy.

Of course I don't claim to be knowledgable on all subjects, but I do my best.


Funny, that's what believers do as well.

My personal area of interest is the fit of the Book of Mormon in Mesoamerica, if you're interested in taking that on. For starters, here is a link to several lengthy essays I've written on the subject.

http://zarahemlacitylimits.com/wiki/ind ... esoamerica

Of course, my boyfriend is about due at my house, and we're having a big birthday party for my son tomorrow, so I probably won't be posting much the rest of the weekend.
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My personal area of interest is the fit of the Book of Mormon in Mesoamerica


I am comming up to speed on that though not anywhere near as good as I should be. I am more of a pure scriptorian and fairly well read on early Christian history.

But I noticed this while looking at your article......While 3 Nephi 21:14 is indeed a reference for horses, do you really think that, given the context, it's speaking about horses in the Americas during the time frame that is up for debate?
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It's hardly crucial to my theory, so you can disregard it if you want. I didn't use it in my more detailed analysis. However, I find it illogical to suggest that Jesus would use a term that would make absolutely no sense to the natives.
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Post by _moksha »

bcspace wrote: While 3 Nephi 21:14 is indeed a reference for horses, do you really think that, given the context, it's speaking about horses in the Americas during the time frame that is up for debate?

You mean it could have just been a reference to small prehistoric horses? Makes sense. Perhaps there were some archaeological hobbyists among the Nephites. It is a fascinating subject after all.


I would like to go back to BC's statement that the critics should be asking the most rigorous questions of the apologists. Seems like this process is being circumvented at MAD through their moderation policies. What do you think?
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beastie wrote:It's hardly crucial to my theory, so you can disregard it if you want. I didn't use it in my more detailed analysis. However, I find it illogical to suggest that Jesus would use a term that would make absolutely no sense to the natives.


Or how about St. Paul and St. Jude quoting mythology as if scripture?

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