truth dancer wrote:Hi Grandap 75...
I like you too! :-)
In terms of your belief that this is a great plan? Well... I disagree.
In fact that plan to me seems about as good as an ancient tribal nomad and a few guys who want power could come up with.
Certainly a God who could create this universe could come up with something a little less cruel and horrific?
I'm just a regular mom with no special anything but I'm telling you, I would never come up with a plan where 1/3 of my children are cast into outer darkness, and where everyone else except a handful of people will return to me.
I would never come up with a plan or allow a plan where the horrors of life exists as they do for the vast majority of humans throughout the history of our world.
I would never come up with a plan where my children's (those who didn't get cast off into outer darkness), choices during this little tiny blink of an experience determine where they will go for eternity.
I would never ever come up with a plan where families and loved ones are separated unless they believe a story that is nearly impossible for most of humankind to believe, and participate in various rituals, ceremonies, and ordinances that feel odd to most people.
I would never come up with a plan where ones eternal wellbeing and relationship are based on knowing passwords and handshakes.
I would never come up with a plan that is tricky and confusing and requires horrific acts to prove obedience.
I would never come up with a plan that, to embrace it one must disregard all sense of reality, science, and real world experience to believe.
I would never come up with a plan where I have a few special, chosen, elite spirits who I want to return to me and the rest... well... whatever.
I would never come up with a plan where women are degraded and demeaned and considered nothing but servants or possessions to men.
AND... I would never come up with a heaven where women get to be a polygamous wife procreating children for all of eternity.
If I were the Goddess of the universe, (and we really lived in a world such as you believe), I'm pretty sure I could come up with a plan that brings all of my children back. A plan where my children have as long as it takes to learn all the lessons there are. A plan where women feel honored and respected and valued as human beings. A plan that is pure, simple, and clear enough for everyone to understand and embrace. A plan where the nonsense of judgments, heirarchy, power, authority, special and elect sprits is absent.
In fact I could do it in about five minutes! ;-)
But... I'm glad you find such peace in your beliefs. Do you understand why others may not?
~dancer~
perhaps you and most of the entirity of our earth's population feel that God is one mean &*^(*&(*)U(*(*^*&^%&^%&&^ if you can read that. Ha Ha
We are all punished for sin to teach us hard headed humans to obey the laws of God and the land.
I know one truth for sure. The Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price and the Doctrine and Covenants teach us that God punishment does not last forever. I personally like the teaching from the D & C 19: 6 Nevertheless, it is not written that there shall be NO end to this torment, but it is written Endless Torment.
7. Again, it is written Eternal Damnation; wherefore it is more express than other scriptures, that it might work upon the hearts of the children of men, altogether for my name's glory.
8. Wherefore, I will explain unto you this mystery, for it is meet unto you to know even as mine apostles.
10. For, behold, the mystery of godliness, how great it it! For, behold, I am endless, and the punishment given from my hand is endless punishment for Endless is my name. Wherefore
11. Eternal punishment is God's punishment.
12. Endless punishment is God's punishment.
The punishment that God will enact upon every living soul will either be called Endless and Eternal punishment simply because it is God's punishment and the punishment is named after him.
I have already posted the verses out of Ephesians 11, 12, 13 Which gives us to understand that every single person who has ever lived or who will live will eventually become as perfect a person as Jesus Christ is. If we aspire to that perfection then I would say that every single person will be worthy of the Celestial Kingdom at some time in the eternities to come. I really don't know how God will do this. Perhaps re-existence is true or reincarnation, I really can't say. But if reincarnation or re-existence is not true, then God has a much better plan.
I have suffered a great deal in my life. One morning I was praying and asking God to relieve me of some of my pain and suffering. But then the Holy Spirit spoke to my heart saying, "No one can really know the Savior without suffering." My heart was so touched that morning I will never get over it.
I know if you search the scriptures and look for questions or things you don't understand, that if you pray about those things the Lord will give you or grant you that understanding.
Don't look upon God as a merciless vengeful ruler, HE is a kind loving Father.
Knowing that there are other worlds just like ours and the people on those other worlds are going through pretty much the same things that we are going through helps us to understand a little more.
I was going to write more but was told to stop. I don't know why but I would ask you to just realize that we will ALL be in the Highest Kingdom of God someday. I really don't know if we will be prepared in the spirit world or if God has some higher plan for us, but it is just written that not one single person will fail.