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Bond...James Bond wrote:You could move to Detroit....

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... _hous.html


Yeah, I read that article earlier today. Pretty sad.
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Bond...James Bond wrote:You could move to Detroit....

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... _hous.html

Yeah, but could you get a decent job there. I think the American auto industry needs to make some big changes to compete with the world market.

Also, with prices that low are you sure that the neighborhood will remain safe instead of rundown?
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Is this in relation to being adopted into the family of Abraham and therefore becoming Jewish?
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Prospective homeowners are hurt by the artificial inflation of home prices. Homeowners are hurt when they owe more than their homes are worth.

Utah because of its rampant conservatism, does not support consumer protection. If the situation gets bad enough, the Church will have its legislative members remedy the situation and even have the Governor call a special session if necessary. Does anyone know if this is adversely affecting tithing donations?
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Utah is also number one in borderline illegal sales floors (the sales floors are in Utah, mostly St. George and Utah County) that prey on unsuspecting people. They sell "coaching" or "mentoring" for such things as John Beck real estate, John Alexander real estate, how to get government grants, Smart Webstores (how to build your own website and make 6 figures per year on the internet) amoung many other scams. These programs cost anywhere from $5000.00 to $20,000.00 that the unsuspecting consumer would pay for with their credit card, under the pretense of using "other people's money" (OPM).

The "coaches" or "mentors" call the client once a week for a "session" to teach the client what they could find at their local library or the internet for free. Most of these mentors know nothing about the business they claim to be "experts" at.

Needless to say, these consumers pay out huge amounts of money for nothing, by the time they figure out that it's a scam, it is too late to make a charge back on their credit cards.

Look up John Beck on www.ripoffreports.com, you'll be amazed at what you'll find!
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new yorker wrote:Utah is also number one in borderline illegal sales floors (the sales floors are in Utah, mostly St. George and Utah County) that prey on unsuspecting people. They sell "coaching" or "mentoring" for such things as John Beck real estate, John Alexander real estate, how to get government grants, Smart Webstores (how to build your own website and make 6 figures per year on the internet) amoung many other scams. These programs cost anywhere from $5000.00 to $20,000.00 that the unsuspecting consumer would pay for with their credit card, under the pretense of using "other people's money" (OPM).

The "coaches" or "mentors" call the client once a week for a "session" to teach the client what they could find at their local library or the internet for free. Most of these mentors know nothing about the business they claim to be "experts" at.

Needless to say, these consumers pay out huge amounts of money for nothing, by the time they figure out that it's a scam, it is too late to make a charge back on their credit cards.

Look up John Beck on www.ripoffreports.com, you'll be amazed at what you'll find!


You can also search for Prosper Inc.

I worked for them as a tech support agent to fix html glitches for people who bought into the Prosper scam.
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moksha wrote:Prospective homeowners are hurt by the artificial inflation of home prices. Homeowners are hurt when they owe more than their homes are worth.

Utah because of its rampant conservatism, does not support consumer protection. If the situation gets bad enough, the Church will have its legislative members remedy the situation and even have the Governor call a special session if necessary. Does anyone know if this is adversely affecting tithing donations?


Well, as soon as it does start to affect tithing donations, laws will be passed. LDS, Inc. watches its bottom line as well as the next business and will scream for change.

Oh wait, isn't that what you just said? Just agreeing with you. It is sad but that is what will have to happen to cause any change in Utah's consumer protection laws.
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