Smith call to "prophet": Explict or assumed?

Post by **_Polygamy Porter** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:49 am

Like I asked in my truth about missionaries thread, did smith ever relate an experience where he was explicitly called to be a prophet or is it just assumed and something he "rolled" into?

Post by **_The Nehor** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:39 am

The D&C which is canon in the Church has God refer to him as the Prophet of the Church on several occasions. In his encounters with God and Christ in the grove and his encounters with Moroni he does say that more things were told to him than are in the record. Perhaps there is a formal calling there. Technically he was a Prophet without an official calling until the first official meeting of the Church where he was sustained as the First Elder.

Post by **_harmony** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:05 pm

The Nehor wrote:The D&C which is canon in the Church has God refer to him as the Prophet of the Church on several occasions.

What's the point of being the prophet of the church? Wouldn't he have been the Prophet of God?

In his encounters with God and Christ in the grove and his encounters with Moroni he does say that more things were told to him than are in the record. Perhaps there is a formal calling there. Technically he was a Prophet without an official calling until the first official meeting of the Church where he was sustained as the First Elder.

He also technically had no priesthood either... but we won't open that particular subject again on this thread, right?

Post by **_silentkid** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:36 pm

The Nehor wrote:The D&C which is canon in the Church has God refer to him as the Prophet of the Church on several occasions.

If you assume that god was talking to him, this could be the case. My assumption is that Joseph was dictating these "revelations" to himself, giving himself the title of prophet independent of god, couching the revelations in King James English to lend these so-called revelations more credence.

Post by **_Jason Bourne** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:29 am

What's the point of being the prophet of the church? Wouldn't he have been the Prophet of God?

The D&C calls him a propher, seer, etc. It says "This generation shall have my word through you."

Post by **_Jason Bourne** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:32 am

silentkid wrote:
The Nehor wrote:The D&C which is canon in the Church has God refer to him as the Prophet of the Church on several occasions.

If you assume that god was talking to him, this could be the case. My assumption is that Joseph was dictating these "revelations" to himself, giving himself the title of prophet independent of god, couching the revelations in King James English to lend these so-called revelations more credence.

That is possible certianly. But the whole premis of the thread is the Smith never thought he was called as a prophet is is demostratably false.