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Do mainstream Christians believe that Jesus God has a body or not?
I assume they think he bodily resurrected. But if Jesus has a mammal body now then so does God the Father since according to trinitarianism they are one. (of course, the Holy Ghost is God too in this picutre but nobody seems to care--he's the odd man out).

If Jesus God no longer has a body then what was the point of the resurrection? Showing off?



Oh and what was the biology of the mother alien in Aliens? (shout out to silent kid. LOL)
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In speaking with several mainstream Christian friends, this is what they believe. This may or may not be the official standing of their churches...just what they, themselves, have come to believe:

Jesus is God incarnate. He took the form of a man and allowed himself to be killed and resurrected to atone for our sins.

Jesus and God the Father are one and the same. He took the form of a man, and chose to have a body, but no longer has need of one. Because He is God, he can always appear in the form of a man if he chooses to.
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liz3564 wrote:In speaking with several mainstream Christian friends, this is what they believe. This may or may not be the official standing of their churches...just what they, themselves, have come to believe:

Jesus is God incarnate. He took the form of a man and allowed himself to be killed and resurrected to atone for our sins.

Jesus and God the Father are one and the same. He took the form of a man, and chose to have a body, but no longer has need of one. Because He is God, he can always appear in the form of a man if he chooses to.


So where did Jesus put his resurrected body after he got through showing off with the resurrection thingy. Back in the tomb? LOL
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Tarski wrote:
liz3564 wrote:In speaking with several mainstream Christian friends, this is what they believe. This may or may not be the official standing of their churches...just what they, themselves, have come to believe:

Jesus is God incarnate. He took the form of a man and allowed himself to be killed and resurrected to atone for our sins.

Jesus and God the Father are one and the same. He took the form of a man, and chose to have a body, but no longer has need of one. Because He is God, he can always appear in the form of a man if he chooses to.


So where did Jesus put his resurrected body after he got through showing off with the resurrection thingy. Back in the tomb? LOL


Well, no .... in the book of Acts, he is physically taken up.

Acts 1:9 (From the Bible.com website)

9After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

I always wondered about this one myself.

Actually, I have this really strange theory, which I have since heard was part of a book once (called Where Are You Going, Human?), in which Jesus was actually half-alien in a DNA experiment from another race somewhere in our galaxy. They took him up so that he wouldn't be exposed. He wasn't really "resurrected", because he didn't die, he just went into a form of suspended animation so that his body could heal itself.

Hey, could be .... maybe I should write a book, or start a religion ...
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Tarski wrote: (of course, the Holy Ghost is God too in this picutre but nobody seems to care--he's the odd man out).


Interestingly, some Mormons have speculated that Joseph Smith became the new Holy Ghost. That would however, really frost Joseph will all those fully restored nubile wives and no body with a flaming sword.
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Tarski wrote:Do mainstream Christians believe that Jesus God has a body or not?
I assume they think he bodily resurrected. But if Jesus has a mammal body now then so does God the Father since according to trinitarianism they are one. (of course, the Holy Ghost is God too in this picutre but nobody seems to care--he's the odd man out).

If Jesus God no longer has a body then what was the point of the resurrection? Showing off?



Oh and what was the biology of the mother alien in Aliens? (shout out to silent kid. LOL)



Hi! Mainstream Christianity does indeed believe that Jesus rose from the dead with His Resurrected Body. Yes, they do believe that Jesus still has His Resurrected Body. The Following information is from CARM (Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry):

His death and the atonement
Jesus bore the sins of the world (1 John 2:2) in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24).
He was a propitiation, a satisfaction to God that appeased God's wrath.
He atoned. He made right that which was wrong between us and God. His shed blood is what cleanses us from sin (Lev. 17:11; Heb. 9:22; Rom. 5:9; 1 John 1:7-9).
He removed the enmity between God and Man (Rom. 5:10).
For whom did He die? - Some say for the sheep (Christians) only (John 10:11,15).
The Sheep are the Christians. The Goats are the non-Christians (Matt. 25:32-46).
Others say He died for everyone (1 John 2:2). Each side has good arguments.
The Resurrection of Christ (John 2:19-21; 1 Cor. 15:1-4).
Jesus rose in the same body that He died in (John 2:19-21; Luke 24:36-43).
Jesus' body is ‘resurrected.' We do not know exactly what His body is like, but the nature of the resurrected body is discussed by Paul in 1 Cor. 15:35-58.


( http://www.carm.org/doctrine/christiandoctrine2.htm )
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Yes. According to mainstream Christianity Jesus has a physical body, though it is somehow quickened or spiritualized at present.
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What's this? Someone actually asking what MC's believe? Wow...

Do mainstream Christians believe that Jesus God has a body or not?


Yes.

I assume they think he bodily resurrected. But if Jesus has a mammal body now then so does God the Father since according to trinitarianism they are one.


No, you don't understand MC trinity doctrine.

(of course, the Holy Ghost is God too in this picutre but nobody seems to care--he's the odd man out).


Tell that to LDS apologists. Okay, this is about MC's. I'll shut up for now on that.

If Jesus God no longer has a body then what was the point of the resurrection? Showing off?


No, showing the way. And I disagree that MC doctrine agrees that Jesus God no longer has a body.

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Tarski wrote:Oh and what was the biology of the mother alien in Aliens? (shout out to silent kid. LOL)


I'm still working on this. That acidic, blood-like substance is proving to be tricky. ;)
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Tarski wrote:Do mainstream Christians believe that Jesus God has a body or not?
I assume they think he bodily resurrected. But if Jesus has a mammal body now then so does God the Father since according to trinitarianism they are one. (of course, the Holy Ghost is God too in this picutre but nobody seems to care--he's the odd man out).

If Jesus God no longer has a body then what was the point of the resurrection? Showing off?



Oh and what was the biology of the mother alien in Aliens? (shout out to silent kid. LOL)


This is a good question and one that I have asked with a variety of results. But it does seem to cause a conundrum for historic trinitarians. If Jesus has a body how does this personage remain one essence with the Father and Holy Ghost? I He has His body does he have an experience that the Father does not? If he was one and in essence and substance one with the Father and HG, then did this part of the Godhead change in that he now has a body? If he does have a body how can he be omnipresent with the rest of the personages of the godhead? If not then what was the point of the resurrection? The body seemed crucial enough to bring back. Why would he go to the effort to prove to His apostle he has the body?

The list goes on.
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