Does the FLDS ban blacks from the priesthood?

Post by **_Scottie** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:52 pm

Since the FLDS is supposedly the continuation of the church that Joseph Smith created, and seem to be immune to government pressures unlike the LDS church, do they still ban blacks from receiving the priesthood? Or was the ban instituted later by BY?

Post by **_SatanWasSetUp** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:54 pm

Yes, Warren Jeffs has given many fire and brimstone talks about the cursed Negro race. When he was arrested, the media released some excerpts. Interestingly, some of his racist tirades were quotes from Brigham Young.

Post by **_The Nehor** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:55 pm

Depends on the Fundamentalist Church in question. There are dozens. Some are, some aren't.

Post by **_moksha** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:12 am

Would it not be poetic justice for blacks to serve on Warren Jeff's jury?

Post by **_Lucretia MacEvil** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:17 am

The Nehor wrote:Depends on the Fundamentalist Church in question. There are dozens. Some are, some aren't.

If you actually know something about this, why not share some particulars? Why even bother post something so non-informative? Don't try to skate by on your good looks; it doesn't work with me.

Post by **_The Nehor** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:32 pm

Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
The Nehor wrote:Depends on the Fundamentalist Church in question. There are dozens. Some are, some aren't.

If you actually know something about this, why not share some particulars? Why even bother post something so non-informative? Don't try to skate by on your good looks; it doesn't work with me.

That's all I know. I did the research years ago. I remember that at least 3 that have policies about Blacks not holding the Priesthood and at least 2 that didn't.

Post by **_Scottie** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:36 pm

The Nehor wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
The Nehor wrote:Depends on the Fundamentalist Church in question. There are dozens. Some are, some aren't.

If you actually know something about this, why not share some particulars? Why even bother post something so non-informative? Don't try to skate by on your good looks; it doesn't work with me.

That's all I know. I did the research years ago. I remember that at least 3 that have policies about Blacks not holding the Priesthood and at least 2 that didn't.

Oh wow. I didn't know there were more than Warren Jeff's church. Are they all in America?

Post by **_Pokatator** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:22 am

Scottie wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
The Nehor wrote:Depends on the Fundamentalist Church in question. There are dozens. Some are, some aren't.

If you actually know something about this, why not share some particulars? Why even bother post something so non-informative? Don't try to skate by on your good looks; it doesn't work with me.

That's all I know. I did the research years ago. I remember that at least 3 that have policies about Blacks not holding the Priesthood and at least 2 that didn't.

Oh wow. I didn't know there were more than Warren Jeff's church. Are they all in America?

Scottie check out this link: http://www.hismin.com/Who.htm

Here's partial list of spin-offs of Joseph's church:

1830-1850’s Churches and individuals.

Pure Church of Christ (Wyman Clark) 1831

John Noah 1831

The Independent Church 1832

Church of Christ (Ezra Booth) 1836

Church of Christ (Warren Parrish) 1837

Isaac Russell 1838

The Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, The Lamb’s Wife (Hinkle) 1840

Oliver Olney 1842

Church of Christ (Hyrum Page) 1842

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (F. G. Bishop) 1842?

True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Law, Foster, Higbee) 1844

Church of Christ (Chubby) 1840’s

Church of Christ/Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Sidney Rigdon) 1844

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Emmett) 1844?

John E. Page 1844

Church of Christ (Stoddard, Rich, Bump) 1845

Indian Mormon 1846

Church of Christ ( W. McLellin, D. Whitmer) 1847

*Church of Christ (D. Whitmer) 1875

Samuel James, George M. Hinkle 1847

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (William Smith) 1847

Congregation of Jehovah’s Presbytery of Zion (Thompson 1848

Church of Christ (Brewster) 1848

Lorenzo D. Oatman 1848

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Wright) 1849

Austin Cowles 1849

Samuel C. Brown 1849

Elijah Schwackhammer 1849

The Bride, The Lamb’s Wife or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Syfritt) 1850

Moses R. Norris 1851

Church of Christ (Aldrich) 1851

George Hickenlooper 1854

Church of Christ (Brooks) 1850’s

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strang) 1844

Reuben Miller 1846

Church of Christ ( Aaron Smith) 1846

Increase M. VanDeusen 1847

Church of the Messiah (Adams) 1861

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)(Albert Norman Ketchum) 1924

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite) (Drew) 1952

Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Caffiaux) 1964

House of Ephraim and House of Manasseh of the Church of Jesus

Christ of Latter Day Saints (Sheppard) 1970

The True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Roberts) 1974

Marriage Counseling Group 1978

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Hajicek) ?

Strangite Believers in Pennsylvania ?

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Brigham Young) 1847

George Miller 1847

Arnold Potter 1850

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibson) 1861

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or Church of the First Born (Morris) 1861

The Prophet Cainen or Church of Jesus Christ of the Most High God (Williams) 1862

Morrisite Group (Livingston) 1864

William Davis 1861

Church of Zion (Godbe) 1868

Church of the First Born (Dove) 1874

Barnet Moses Giles 1875

Church of Jesus Christ of the Saints of the Most High God (Guhl) 1870’s

Church of Jesus Christ of the Saints of the Most High God (James) 1884

Church of Jesus Christ of the Saints of the Most High God (Thompson) 1888

Priesthood Groups (Fundamentalists) 1890

James Brighouse 1887

John Koyle 1894

Church of the First Born (Israel Dennis) 1895

Josiah Hickman 1900

Lars Peterson 1900

Nathaniel Baldwin 1903

Samuel Eastman 1904

John Tanner Clark 1905

Hannah Sorenson 1906

United Order of Equality (Peterson) 1909

Moses Gudmendsen 1918

Paul Feil 1928

LDS Depression Movement 1930

Davis County Co-op Society (Kingston) 1935

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Third Convention (Paez) 1936

The Church of Jesus Christ of Israel ( Sherwood) 1936

Church of Jesus of Latter Day Saints (Margarito Bautista) 1936

Benjamin T. LaBaron 1938

Order of Aaron (Glendinning) 1943

Church of Freedom of Latter Day Saints 1950’s

Zion’s Order of the Sons of Levi (Kilgore) 1951

Annalee Skarin 1952

The Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times (Joel F. LeBaron) 1955

The Church of the Firstborn (Ross W. LeBaron) 1955

United Outcasts of Israel, American Indian Restoration

Enterprises, Praetorian Press (Pratt) 1958

Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter Day Saints (Conway) 1958

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Forsgren) 1960

Paul Solem 1960

Church of Jesus Christ (Goldman) 1960’s

Divine Word Foundation (Hans N. VonKorber) 1965

Bruce David Longo 1965

LDS Scripture Researchers/Believe God Society (Lloyd) 1965

The Church of the Body and of the Spirit of Jesus Christ (Powers) 1965

United Order of the Saints of Guadeloupe (Gamiette) 1966

United Order of the Family of Christ (Desmond) 1966

Split from Zion’s Order of the Sons of Levi (Taylor) 1969

Homosexual Church of Jesus Christ, Denver, Colorado 1972

Latter Day Saints Church (Park) 1972

The Church of the Lamb of God (Ervil M. LaBaron) 1972

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Krupenia) 1972

The New Jerusalem Group (Kathryn Carter) 1972

The Watchmen on the Towers of Latter Day Israel (Braun) 1973

Monte Scovill 1973

Church of Jesus Christ in Solemn Assembly (Alexander Joseph) 1974

Evangelical Church of Christ, Church of the New Covenant in Christ (Bryant) 1974

Split from Zion’s Order of the Sons of Levi (Kilgore 1975

Affirmation 1975

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Simons) 1975

Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times (Wakeham 1975

Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times ( Alma LeBaron) 1976

Aaronic Order Break-off 1977

Christ’s Church, Inc. (Peterson) 1978

Church of Jesus Christ (Bulla) 1978

The Restorers or School of the Prophets (Crossfield) 1979

Zion’s First International Church (LeeAnn Walker) 1980

The Free Will Mormon Church (Coleman) 1980

Aryan Christian Church (Hayden, Idaho) 1980

Church of Jesus Christ (Mora) 1981

Sons Ahman Israel (David Israel) 1981

Samoan LDS Church, New Zealand 1981

The Millennial Church of Jesus Christ (Evoniuk) 1981

Peyote Way Church of God (Trujillo) 1981?

The Church of Jesus Christ of the Saints in Zion (Thackston) 1982

The Church of Jesus Christ of the Saints in Zion (Asay) 1984

Break from the Church of Jesus Christ in Solemn Assembly 1984

The Company or The Sisterhood (Arvin Shreeve) 1984

Lafferty Group (Ron and Dan Lafferty) 1984

Work of Better Truth (Peterson) 1984

Gilbert Jordan 1985

Church of Jesus Christ of All Latter-day Saints or

Restoration Church of Jesus Christ (Feliz) 1985

Church of Christ of Latter-day Saints (Madison) 1985

Church of Christ the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times (Widmar) 1985

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Fundamentalists (Wright Family) 1985?

School of the Prophets (Archie Dean Wood) 1986

Mormon Fundamentalists, England (Munn) 1986?

The Ensign Corporation (Miller) 1986

Church of Jesus Christ Omnipotent 1987

Community of Zion, Central Utah Division (Miner) ?

LeRoy Wilson ?

Alonzo Langford ?

Church of the First Born, General Assembly ?

The Church of Jesus Christ (Cutler) 1953

Church of Jesus Christ (Fletcher) 1953

The Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Walton) 1979

The Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints 1851

Henry Harrison Deam 1854

The Church of Christ, the Order of Zion (Zahnd) 1918

The Church of Jesus Christ (Williams) 1925

World Redemption (Fuller) 1969

Church of Jesus Christ Restored (King) 1970

Loyal Opposition (Liggett) 1970

New Jerusalem Church of Jesus Christ (Fuller) 1976

Church of Christ Restored (Fishel) 1976

True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Toney) 1980

Church of the Restoration or Churches of Christ in Zion (Chambers) 1981

Joseph T. Long 1983

Lamanite Ministries for Christ or New Covenant Ministries for Christ 1984

Restoration Branches Movement 1984

Church of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God (Abramson) 1985

Church of Jesus Christ, Zion’s Branch (Cato) 1986

Church of Christ (Clark) 1986

Independent Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Warren) 1986

Native Indian Church ?

The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickerton) 1862

George Barnes 1873

Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Wright) 1907

Primitive Church of Jesus Christ (Caldwell) 1914

Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrick 1863

Church of Christ, Independent, Informal, (Wipper) 1927

The Church of Christ (Fetting) 1929

Church of Christ (Ely) 1929

Church of Christ (Humphrey) 1929

Church of Christ (Trapp) 1930

Church of Christ (Restored) (DeWolf) 1936

Church of Christ (E.E. Long and Nerren) 1936

Church of Christ (Hilgendorf) 1942

The Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (Draves) 1946

Floyd Denham Group ?

Church of Christ (Pauline Hancock) 1946

Antarctica Development Interests or the New American’s Mount Zion (Leabo) 1955

Church of Christ (E.E. Long) 1960

Church of Christ (Leighton-Floyd, Burt) 1965

Church of Christ at Zion’s Retreat (Hall) 1973

The Church of Israel (Gayman) 1973

Stephen Brown 1979

Break from the Church of Christ (Hancock) (in Michigan) 1973

Church of Christ With the Elijah Message (Rogers) 1975

The Church of Christ, Restored Gospel 1929

Then reorganized again in 1985

The True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saint of the Last Days

(James Harmston) 1994

Fraternity of Preparation

_Nephi · Post by **_Nephi** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:48 am

In the long list of churches that are there, the author fails to tell us where he found that information. Though I do not doubt the validity of some in that list, I wouldn't be surprised to find some made up churches there. I would like to know where he found that information.

Post by **_Mercury** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:06 am

Nephi wrote:In the long list of churches that are there, the author fails to tell us where he found that information. Though I do not doubt the validity of some in that list, I wouldn't be surprised to find some made up churches there. I would like to know where he found that information.

Are you capable of doing your own research? If you truly profess faith in this institution called Mormonism you would have backed your s*** up