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Hey Crocket, how is church growth in So Cal?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:37 am
by _Polygamy Porter
Since it is now public knowledge that you are a bishop in SoCal, tell us how fast TSCC is growing down there and is the majority of baptisms still illegal aliens from Mexico?

I am sure with you being a lawyer that your ward is lily white, and perhaps you do not live near the darker parts of town..

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:59 am
by _karl61
[quote="thestyleguy"]New*** is a ghost town ever since four CHP officers were gunned down there in a traffic stop. I think the missionaries would do good if they hung out at the local denny's and talk to truck drivers during their rest time.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:18 pm
by _rcrocket
We share our building with the Spanish ward and our scouting programs are combined. Hispanics constitute a significant portion of our own ward. The Church does not inquire as to immigration status when it baptises people in our stake.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:24 pm
by _Runtu
rcrocket wrote:We share our building with the Spanish ward and our scouting programs are combined. Hispanics constitute a significant portion of our own ward. The Church does not inquire as to immigration status when it baptises people in our stake.


My home stake (Canoga Park) has experienced rather drastic changes since I left home. Wards have been combined, and the stake was combined with a neighboring stake. The wards are small and struggling. It was kind of shocking going from our bursting-at-the-seams ward in Texas to the relatively deserted ward my parents attend.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:27 pm
by _rcrocket
The elementary schools in our stake are losing student population rapidly. Because home values have more than doubled since 2003, the homes with families are being replaced with homes with income-earning adults.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:37 pm
by _Runtu
rcrocket wrote:The elementary schools in our stake are losing student population rapidly. Because home values have more than doubled since 2003, the homes with families are being replaced with homes with income-earning adults.


I have no idea how people can afford to buy a house in So. Cal. anymore. My parents bought their home in 1971 for $51,000. It's now worth about $1.5 million dollars. I can't imagine making enough money (even with two incomes) to make the payments on a house like that. And it's just a middle-class tract house from the 1970s.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:37 pm
by _TAK
rcrocket wrote:We share our building with the Spanish ward and our scouting programs are combined. Hispanics constitute a significant portion of our own ward. The Church does not inquire as to immigration status when it baptises people in our stake.


the Spanish ward ?? So the color of ones' skin dictates the congregation an LDS member attends? What will happen when they become white and delightsome?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:39 pm
by _Runtu
TAK wrote:
rcrocket wrote:We share our building with the Spanish ward and our scouting programs are combined. Hispanics constitute a significant portion of our own ward. The Church does not inquire as to immigration status when it baptises people in our stake.


the Spanish ward ?? So the color of ones' skin dictates the congregation an LDS member attends? What will happen when they become white and delightsome?


Um, since when is "Spanish" synonymous with skin color? I would imagine it's language that dictates the congregation an LDS member attends.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:39 pm
by _asbestosman
Runtu wrote:I have no idea how people can afford to buy a house in So. Cal. anymore. My parents bought their home in 1971 for $51,000. It's now worth about $1.5 million dollars. I can't imagine making enough money (even with two incomes) to make the payments on a house like that. And it's just a middle-class tract house from the 1970s.

I hear that some people in the Seattle area get interest-only loans on their homes.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:47 pm
by _Runtu
asbestosman wrote:
Runtu wrote:I have no idea how people can afford to buy a house in So. Cal. anymore. My parents bought their home in 1971 for $51,000. It's now worth about $1.5 million dollars. I can't imagine making enough money (even with two incomes) to make the payments on a house like that. And it's just a middle-class tract house from the 1970s.

I hear that some people in the Seattle area get interest-only loans on their homes.


I know someone in Seattle who got an interest-only loan on a house, kept it for 2 years and then cleared $200,000 selling it, which was enough to make a down payment on another house with a real loan, this time.