DCP Claims that "Witnesses" Helped Rescue a Norwegian's Testimony

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Re: DCP Claims that "Witnesses" Helped Rescue a Norwegian's Testimony

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N_N wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:12 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:06 pm
DCP speaks German, a language in the same family as Norwegian. I wonder if a German writing english would sound the same? How hard is it to fake a Norwegian writing english? And why exactly did the guy have to announce his nationality? Who does that?
No, a German writing style is different. Closer to English than Norwegian. Norwegians do announce their nationality to Americans all the time. So do Americans, by the way.
Ok, in your opinion, is it possible that someone could fake a Norwegian speaking english? If not, why not? Also, I've met a few Norwegians over the years and it took a while prior to finding out what their nationality was and that was because I asked. Obviously this is anecdotal but you are implying that it is commonplace for Norwegians to announce their nationality where I found that not to be the case in my experience.
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N_N wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:10 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:04 pm
Thanks for those answers N_N.

What is the culture like in Norway for watching pirated movies? Seems to me outside of the US, people's main concern in life isn't going to be to respect American copyrights, especially when it comes to the wealth of Hollywood. Everybody Wang Chung has a great point that unless he saw it pirated, there is almost no way he saw it. Maybe he saw it while in the states, but seems like he would have mentioned being here in that email?
I'm at a loss as to where to see the movie. Maybe in Oslo? Nowhere near me. As to respecting copyright, nah. Same as every where I guess. We only respect skiing.
I don't think it is being shown outside of the United States. Here is the witnesses' website and it only lists theaters in the United States under "get tickets." https://witnessesfilm.com/
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:14 pm
N_N wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:12 pm

No, a German writing style is different. Closer to English than Norwegian. Norwegians do announce their nationality to Americans all the time. So do Americans, by the way.
Ok, in your opinion, is it possible that someone could fake a Norwegian speaking english? If not, why not? Also, I've met a few Norwegians over the years and it took a while prior to finding out what their nationality was and that was because I asked. Obviously this is anecdotal but you are implying that it is commonplace for Norwegians to announce their nationality where I found that not to be the case in my experience.
It's possible to fake in a short passage if someone was familiar with Norwegian. Seems an extra step in this case.

I guess that Norwegians are less likely to announce in person to a peer, but online to someone they want to impress (look at how important this movie is, even in Norway) sure.
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thanks N_N.

message from Interpreter: If your faith is struggling outside of the US, rekindling your testimony might cost you a prison sentence.

Makes you wonder if the Holy Ghost is even allowed to testify of the truth during a copyright violation.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:17 pm
N_N wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:10 pm

I'm at a loss as to where to see the movie. Maybe in Oslo? Nowhere near me. As to respecting copyright, nah. Same as every where I guess. We only respect skiing.
I don't think it is being shown outside of the United States. Here is the witnesses' website and it only lists theaters in the United States under "get tickets." https://witnessesfilm.com/
I don't want to see the movie until GAM covers it. Hagiography is boring.
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:24 pm
thanks N_N.

message from Interpreter: If your faith is struggling outside of the US, rekindling your testimony might cost you a prison sentence.

Makes you wonder if the Holy Ghost is even allowed to testify of the truth during a copyright violation.
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Why don't apologists make a Hollywood movie about the Nephites and Lamanites? It would be an even bigger hit than Lord of the Rings! Since it would be based on actual history!

Is the Witness to the Book of Mormon more important than the Book itself??
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drumdude wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:27 pm
Why don't apologists make a Hollywood movie about the Nephites and Lamanites? It would be an even bigger hit than Lord of the Rings! Since it would be based on actual history!

Is the Witness to the Book of Mormon more important than the Book itself??
Because they would have to depict them coming from Siberia instead of Jerusalem in order to be scientifically more accurate with current DNA research. :lol:
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Did anyone else notice that "SeN" dropped this point like a hot potato? Was this the lone alleged positive email about how "Witnesses" saved somebody's testimony, if that's what you call it? It's seeming more and more like this was a deceptive act of desperation.
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Re: DCP Claims that "Witnesses" Helped Rescue a Norwegian's Testimony

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:39 pm
Did anyone else notice that "SeN" dropped this point like a hot potato? Was this the lone alleged positive email about how "Witnesses" saved somebody's testimony, if that's what you call it? It's seeming more and more like this was a deceptive act of desperation.
It's a smart move to drop it, arguably he should delete the message, being from an anonymous source and all. It could just as well be a troll, trolling him for the LOL's. In any case, I didn't read a high degree of intelligence or issue-awareness in NN's email. If someone were really struggling with research, would hearing Dan interviewed on All-In, or watching the Witnesses film really resolve things for good? Of course not. Maybe breathed some oxygen to a kid drowning in doubt, fear and shame, but that's more of a best case scenario, in my opinion. I bet this was a teenager with limited awareness who was impressed while listening to Dan's podcast interview (about the Witnesses film), then looked online and watched a bootleg copy of the film, had a feel good moment during a scene with victorious music, and wanted to thank him for it. But how long that lasts is anyone's guess.

It was probably a mistake to post that email in the first place, because if NN found out about it, well that opens the doors to NN reading all of SeN's content -- and comments -- in which case I will put 98% odds on NN going full testimony loss within 2 weeks.
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