http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AQTr9oB8lw
"Blabbitty blabbitty blaahhh blaaah bleeee bleeee yada yada yada"
He never answers the question.
Yet their chubbly bubbly spokeswoman Kathy Farah exclaims that the Book of Mormon "is the HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE ON THE AMERICAN CONTINENT" on their recent PR
trainwreck.
Not some people, nor an isolated people, not even FARM speak of "peoples of the ancient americas", no no, the spokes-sister used more exacting terms! "THE history of THE people on THE American continent. "
So then Kathy and Melvin, which is it? Kathy says it IS a historical record and Melvin says this HISTORY cannot be backed one iota scientifically.
Hey right hand, this is left hand, you two need to get together and find out what each other is saying..
Ballard just laid off the entire FARMs group
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It's in reference to the question of who will be considered credible by LDS in answering any LDS doctrinal question: a woman, or an apostle?
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It just seems like a contradiction because you're applying human rationality to the questions. We all know that "true" knowledge is the matter of "feelings," of some ultra-personal, can't ever be described let alone rationally fathomed "spiritual witness." From that end of the telescope its easy for such "contradictions" to not just disappear, but not even appear in the first place. As a last resort one can always be reassured that everything will eventually be explained or not matter sometime in the hereafter. And since that's the case why bother thinking about such things now? Especially when you've got so many callings to attend to and a job (if you're a man) or a million kids (if you're a woman) to take care of?
FARMS is nothing other than low-level dike plugging (PP, get your mind out of the gutter). Its just one more hastily assembled reinforcing wall in a top heavy jerry-built structure not unlike the Winchester mansion (built in haphazard and contradictory fashion in order to keep "ghosts" and "spirits" at bay). Even the grotesque mixture of metaphors I've used here "work" because everything, absolutely everything can be resolved with reference to "higher knowledge," "spiritual witness," and celestial perspective.
Mormonism truly is a millienialist religion. Nothing here on earth really matters that much, not a woman's life and health ruined from excessive childbirth, not a young boy's emotions damaged from guilt and pressure, not the murder of a passle of emigrants, or Indians, not the gutting of the earth's environment----NOTHING matters because soon it will all be over, and if that soon isn't as soon as first promised, no matter because the real deal is the hereafter, not the now.
That's where I find the big problems. Millenialism wipes out History, and without history there is no future for humanity.
FARMS is nothing other than low-level dike plugging (PP, get your mind out of the gutter). Its just one more hastily assembled reinforcing wall in a top heavy jerry-built structure not unlike the Winchester mansion (built in haphazard and contradictory fashion in order to keep "ghosts" and "spirits" at bay). Even the grotesque mixture of metaphors I've used here "work" because everything, absolutely everything can be resolved with reference to "higher knowledge," "spiritual witness," and celestial perspective.
Mormonism truly is a millienialist religion. Nothing here on earth really matters that much, not a woman's life and health ruined from excessive childbirth, not a young boy's emotions damaged from guilt and pressure, not the murder of a passle of emigrants, or Indians, not the gutting of the earth's environment----NOTHING matters because soon it will all be over, and if that soon isn't as soon as first promised, no matter because the real deal is the hereafter, not the now.
That's where I find the big problems. Millenialism wipes out History, and without history there is no future for humanity.
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
Blixa wrote:... because the real deal is the hereafter, not the now.
This is what bothers me the most about Christianity in general. It's all about the hereafter. Here and now only gets lip service. And Mormons are no different, even though they know better! THIS life is the standard by which we are judged, according to lds.org, yet we spend so few of our resources on this life, it's downright shameful. Our biggest expenditure, the temples, has absolutely nothin to do with this life, yet our humanitarian efforts, which are all about this life are not even 10% of that.
Shame. Shame. Shame.
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harmony wrote:This is what bothers me the most about Christianity in general. It's all about the hereafter. Here and now only gets lip service. And Mormons are no different, even though they know better! THIS life is the standard by which we are judged, according to lds.org, yet we spend so few of our resources on this life, it's downright shameful. Our biggest expenditure, the temples, has absolutely nothin to do with this life, yet our humanitarian efforts, which are all about this life are not even 10% of that.
Shame. Shame. Shame.
In all fairness we demons have the same obsession with the next human life. It's all about preparing human souls for the dinner table.