Sounds good to me, and Muslims only get 72 of em'.perpetual birthing machine.
We have a winner
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Okay, Loran, in all seriousness, and with no "swine" intent:Coggins7 wrote:This...THIS...THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely why the Lord Jesus Christ counseled his disciples not to cast pearls before swine, and why the Temple ceremonies are secret and closed both to non-members and members not willing to abide the standards of the Gospel.
Do you, Coggins7, believe that Hammer spoke with Joseph Smith face-to-face?
A simple yes or no will do. I promise I will not mock your response if you say "yes."
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I don't know, and neither do you. However, if he did, and he may have, the response to the claim in the OP was a prime example of the principle I mentioned.Okay, Loran, in all seriousness, and with no "swine" intent:
Do you, Coggins7, believe that Hammer spoke with Joseph Smith face-to-face?
A simple yes or no will do. I promise I will not mock your response if you say "yes."
I'm sure he won't make the same mistake again.
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In a case like this you have to apply the "What is its purpose test".
The question is "Why would Joseph Smith need to make a personal appearance to Hammer?"
What vital piece of information did Hammer need that an angel akin to Gabriel or Raphael would need to personally appear and deliver?
Sounds very fishy to me.
The question is "Why would Joseph Smith need to make a personal appearance to Hammer?"
What vital piece of information did Hammer need that an angel akin to Gabriel or Raphael would need to personally appear and deliver?
Sounds very fishy to me.
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I don't know. Why couldn't God have just struck Laman and Lemuel instead of sending an angel? I don't know. There could be dozens of reasons to send an angel to Hammer. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess his wife is pregnant with the next Sampson.Gazelam wrote:In a case like this you have to apply the "What is its purpose test".
The question is "Why would Joseph Smith need to make a personal appearance to Hammer ?"
What vital piece of information did Hammer need that an angel akin to Gabriel or Raphael would need to personally appear and deliver?
Sounds very fishy to me.
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What's wrong with Hammer meeting Joseph Smith face to face? He's TBM right? This is normal thinking in TBM land. Every ward I've been in Hammer's story would be considered completely normal, especially if it happened in the temple. In fact, those members who admitted to never having "sacred" experiences like Hammer's were the weird ones.
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And you're blaming Joseph Smith?The Nehor wrote:I don't know. Why couldn't God have just struck Laman and Lemuel instead of sending an angel? I don't know. There could be dozens of reasons to send an angel to Hammer. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess his wife is pregnant with the next Sampson.Gazelam wrote:In a case like this you have to apply the "What is its purpose test".
The question is "Why would Joseph Smith need to make a personal appearance to Hammer?"
What vital piece of information did Hammer need that an angel akin to Gabriel or Raphael would need to personally appear and deliver?
Sounds very fishy to me.
May to mellow out and knock off those Insults for the Lord?Gazelam wrote:In a case like this you have to apply the "What is its purpose test".
The question is "Why would Joseph Smith need to make a personal appearance to Hammer?"
What vital piece of information did Hammer need that an angel akin to Gabriel or Raphael would need to personally appear and deliver?
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Once again Coggins.... I think you might be the one with mental derangement... I was talking to Nehor. Or is that too complicated to understand?Coggins7 wrote:Mental derangement?Nehor go back and look very closely to what you have said and then think, why would I [pirate washer] write such a thing?
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