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Can "evil speaking of the Lord's anointed" include statements that are true? Or can evil include the truth?

John

John Larsen wrote:Can "evil speaking of the Lord's anointed" include statements that are true? Or can evil include the truth?

John

To quote Oaks:

"It's Wrong To Criticize Leaders Of The Church, Even If The Criticism Is True."

John Larsen wrote:Can "evil speaking of fat women" include statements that are true? Or can evil include the truth about fat women?

John

Slight editorial re-arrangement for effect.

Ray A wrote:

John Larsen wrote:Can "evil speaking of fat women" include statements that are true? Or can evil include the truth about fat women?

John

Slight editorial re-arrangement for effect.

if your talk is on "your waistline is your lifeline" then yes.

thestyleguy wrote:if your talk is on "your waistline is your lifeline" then yes.

If your talk is on MDB - you can speak ALL the evil you want.

So what's JL's complaint? That he can't speak evil here?

Does he plan to attend bishopric meeting next week and speak evil of the Lord's anointed?

Why does it even matter to him?????????????????????????????????

I heart evil.

Doctor Steuss wrote:I heart evil.

BURN HIM!!!!!! BURN HIM!!!!!!

Ray A wrote:

thestyleguy wrote:if your talk is on "your waistline is your lifeline" then yes.

If your talk is on MDB - you can speak ALL the evil you want.

So what's JL's complaint? That he can't speak evil here?

Does he plan to attend bishopric meeting next week and speak evil of the Lord's anointed?

Why does it even matter to him?????????????????????????????????

I guess I am looking for a working definition of evil speaking. If I say Dallin Oaks lied when he said X. And that sentence is true, is it evil speaking of the Lord's anointed. It seems to me if what criticism I levy are true, they are not evil speaking. Otherwise we must define speaking the truth as an evil act, which I would disagree with.

As to your "fat" comment, that would be derisive. If I were to say that someone was over-weight, that would be true but the word "fat" is intended as an insult.

john

John Larsen wrote:I guess I am looking for a working definition of evil speaking. If I say Dallin Oaks lied when he said X. And that sentence is true, is it evil speaking of the Lord's anointed. It seems to me if what criticism I levy are true, they are not evil speaking. Otherwise we must define speaking the truth as an evil act, which I would disagree with.

Yes, that would be considered evil speak. You don't know the circumstances surrounding the lie. We all know that the Lord can and does ask His leaders to lie in the name or righteousness. You have no way of knowing if God sanctioned the lie, so you have no grounds to question the morality of it.

Bottom line, don't say anything bad about the lords anointed because they may be asked to do things that our moral senses would deem horrific. God is the author of morality, so if it is His will, it is, by default, moral.

I wonder if "evil speaking of the Lord's annointed" may have referred to accusing church leaders of things they did not do (or maybe things they did do, but should not have done, but were excused because they were in power.)