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bigotry against Huckabee from the evolution believers

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:08 pm
by _Sethbag
http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/ ... um-en.html

I thought this was interesting, in light of the complaint by Jason Bourne that Romney was hogging all the bigotry and not sharing any of it with Mike Huckabee, a baptist preacher and former Arkansas governor.

Well apparently Huckabee's getting some of his fair share of bigotry too. Some of those radical science believers seem to oppose him on the grounds that he doesn't believe in the "theory" of evolution. Apparently these people hold the bigoted and hate-mongering mindset that the President of the United States ought to be able to use sound judgment and critical thinking, and that rejecting evolution in favor of Biblical creation mythology simply isn't enough for them.

Boo! Down with the bigoted hate mongers! Abolish religious bigotry and give the Bronze Age Goatherder Mythology believers their fair shake at a chance to hold their fingers over the Nuclear Button!

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:56 pm
by _Doctor Steuss
I heard that Giuliani prefers speleothems over dendrochronology. He also thinks the Libby half-life is more accurate than the Cambridge half-life (just because most still use the Lhl out of convenience).

What an idiot.

Re: bigotry against Huckabee from the evolution believers

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:17 pm
by _The Dude
Huckabee believes in ID, huh? Well that's a deal breaker for me, because he's probably being totally honest when he says he finds ID more compelling. At least with Romney I have a reasonable hunch that he's actually an atheist-agnostic, only posturing as a religionist (a pseudo EV-Mormon) for the sake of electability.

Re: bigotry against Huckabee from the evolution believers

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:27 pm
by _the road to hana
The Dude wrote: At least with Romney I have a reasonable hunch that he's actually an atheist-agnostic, only posturing as a religionist (a pseudo EV-Mormon) for the sake of electability.


Interesting hunch. I had a related thought that was that Mitt Romney is someone who very much wants to run for President who happened to have been born into a Mormon family, and is just now fully realizing the implications of that. Probably he's wishing he'd been born a Kennedy. Or maybe not.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:28 pm
by _karl61
Doctor Steuss wrote:I heard that Giuliani prefers speleothems over dendrochronology. He also thinks the Libby half-life is more accurate than the Cambridge half-life (just because most still use the Lhl out of convenience).

What an idiot.


personally - I go with the geo-centric pollywog bifurcation theory.

Re: bigotry against Huckabee from the evolution believers

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:16 am
by _Jason Bourne
Sethbag wrote:http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2007/12/the-momentum-en.html

I thought this was interesting, in light of the complaint by Jason Bourne that Romney was hogging all the bigotry and not sharing any of it with Mike Huckabee, a baptist preacher and former Arkansas governor.

Well apparently Huckabee's getting some of his fair share of bigotry too. Some of those radical science believers seem to oppose him on the grounds that he doesn't believe in the "theory" of evolution. Apparently these people hold the bigoted and hate-mongering mindset that the President of the United States ought to be able to use sound judgment and critical thinking, and that rejecting evolution in favor of Biblical creation mythology simply isn't enough for them.

Boo! Down with the bigoted hate mongers! Abolish religious bigotry and give the Bronze Age Goatherder Mythology believers their fair shake at a chance to hold their fingers over the Nuclear Button!


Hooray that he is getting his share, well maybe a little but not much yet.

Why does he think Rudy repels Democrats but Huckabee does not?

Re: bigotry against Huckabee from the evolution believers

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:47 am
by _asbestosman
The Dude wrote:At least with Romney I have a reasonable hunch that he's actually an atheist-agnostic, only posturing as a religionist (a pseudo EV-Mormon) for the sake of electability.


I second your hunch. I suspect Romney because 1) His ease of flip-flopping on "moral" issues (or even political parties) tells me that faith isn't really that central to him--expediency is. 2) He really downplays Mormonism--IMO so much so that I get the feeling that he doesn't really think that much about it except as a family heritage thing.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:06 am
by _beastie
I second your hunch. I suspect Romney because 1) His ease of flip-flopping on "moral" issues (or even political parties) tells me that faith isn't really that central to him--expediency is. 2) He really downplays Mormonism--IMO so much so that I get the feeling that he doesn't really think that much about it except as a family heritage thing.


Would this still be your assessment if the earlier report was correct, and Mitt had obtained the "ok" of the brethren to be pro-choice in Mass, in order to be elected?

(I'm not sure I can find the article again, this was the assertion of a liberal Mormon female professor who knew Mitt)

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:47 am
by _Blixa
beastie wrote:
I second your hunch. I suspect Romney because 1) His ease of flip-flopping on "moral" issues (or even political parties) tells me that faith isn't really that central to him--expediency is. 2) He really downplays Mormonism--IMO so much so that I get the feeling that he doesn't really think that much about it except as a family heritage thing.


Would this still be your assessment if the earlier report was correct, and Mitt had obtained the "ok" of the brethren to be pro-choice in Mass, in order to be elected?

(I'm not sure I can find the article again, this was the assertion of a liberal Mormon female professor who knew Mitt)


I can't remember her name but she's Eliza Dushku's mom so use that surname in your Google. The only reason I can remember this is that I have a colleague who knows her (and used to babysit Eliza).

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:49 am
by _Trevor
Blixa wrote:I can't remember her name but she's Eliza Dushku's mom so use that surname in your Google. The only reason I can remember this is that I have a colleague who knows her (and used to babysit Eliza).


Judith Dushku