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Evidence of Mormon Brainwashing

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:21 am
by _Gadianton
http://www.ldsmag.com/arts/071207compass.html

A uh, critique of the the movie "The Golden Compass." by the way, can I mention how happy I am this film was made and is pissing off Christians (and Mormons ((who aren't christians))).

This is a great example of how the typical Mormon thinks. (they are promoted as typical Mormons)

One exerpt:

I was a young mother with a two-year-old at that time, and the thought that my calling was to “enrich, protect, and guard my home” really made me think deeply how I could possibly do that in an increasingly wicked world.

Ten years later that same two-year-old, Clarissa, came home from school with a book by Judy Blume, Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret. I had heard about Ms. Blume and in particular this book; her writing and thinking didn’t seem in line with what I wanted my children to read or learn. But I also didn’t think it would be productive to just forbid her to read it. So, I made a deal with her, I would read the book first and then we would discuss it and she could decide whether or not to read it herself.

I read the book, which as I remember is about a young girl, Margaret, who is trying to find God and goes from one church to another, but never finds Him. She never really resolves her search; the book seemed atheistic to me (although not nearly as forceful as Pullman’s books). I sat Clarissa down and described the book and my feelings on it; she decided not to read it and returned it to the library the next day.


Typical Mormon brainwashing. Don't you think? Instead of both of them reading it and then discussing it, the cult-loving glassy eyed mom reads it and bears testimony against it, and essentially feeds her 12 year old fetus through the tube.

Re: Evidence of Mormon Brainwashing

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:42 am
by _Mister Scratch
Gadianton wrote:http://www.ldsmag.com/arts/071207compass.html

A uh, critique of the the movie "The Golden Compass." by the way, can I mention how happy I am this film was made and is pissing off Christians (and Mormons ((who aren't christians))).

This is a great example of how the typical Mormon thinks. (they are promoted as typical Mormons)

One exerpt:

I was a young mother with a two-year-old at that time, and the thought that my calling was to “enrich, protect, and guard my home” really made me think deeply how I could possibly do that in an increasingly wicked world.

Ten years later that same two-year-old, Clarissa, came home from school with a book by Judy Blume, Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret. I had heard about Ms. Blume and in particular this book; her writing and thinking didn’t seem in line with what I wanted my children to read or learn. But I also didn’t think it would be productive to just forbid her to read it. So, I made a deal with her, I would read the book first and then we would discuss it and she could decide whether or not to read it herself.

I read the book, which as I remember is about a young girl, Margaret, who is trying to find God and goes from one church to another, but never finds Him. She never really resolves her search; the book seemed atheistic to me (although not nearly as forceful as Pullman’s books). I sat Clarissa down and described the book and my feelings on it; she decided not to read it and returned it to the library the next day.


Typical Mormon brainwashing. Don't you think? Instead of both of them reading it and then discussing it, the cult-loving glassy eyed mom reads it and bears testimony against it, and essentially feeds her 12 year old fetus through the tube.


What's even more ironic is that the book follows almost the exact same plotline as Joseph Smith did---i.e., going from church to church in search of God. It's okay if Joseph Smith does it (along with a host of other things); but it's most definitely NOT okay for anyone else to do it, or, in fact for a young person to even read about anyone doing it. I agree, Gad: this mother's behavior was most disgusting.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:49 am
by _The Nehor
'cult-loving glassy eyed mom"?

Wow, you should be a prophet. I couldn't pull that out of the story.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:51 am
by _Mister Scratch
The Nehor wrote:'cult-loving glassy eyed mom"?

Wow, you should be a prophet. I couldn't pull that out of the story.


Fair enough, but what is your explanation regarding the mom's motive? Could this legitimately be called "brainwashing"?

Re: Evidence of Mormon Brainwashing

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:55 am
by _jskains
Gadianton wrote:http://www.ldsmag.com/arts/071207compass.html

A uh, critique of the the movie "The Golden Compass." by the way, can I mention how happy I am this film was made and is pissing off Christians (and Mormons ((who aren't christians))).

This is a great example of how the typical Mormon thinks. (they are promoted as typical Mormons)

One exerpt:

I was a young mother with a two-year-old at that time, and the thought that my calling was to “enrich, protect, and guard my home” really made me think deeply how I could possibly do that in an increasingly wicked world.

Ten years later that same two-year-old, Clarissa, came home from school with a book by Judy Blume, Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret. I had heard about Ms. Blume and in particular this book; her writing and thinking didn’t seem in line with what I wanted my children to read or learn. But I also didn’t think it would be productive to just forbid her to read it. So, I made a deal with her, I would read the book first and then we would discuss it and she could decide whether or not to read it herself.

I read the book, which as I remember is about a young girl, Margaret, who is trying to find God and goes from one church to another, but never finds Him. She never really resolves her search; the book seemed atheistic to me (although not nearly as forceful as Pullman’s books). I sat Clarissa down and described the book and my feelings on it; she decided not to read it and returned it to the library the next day.


Typical Mormon brainwashing. Don't you think? Instead of both of them reading it and then discussing it, the cult-loving glassy eyed mom reads it and bears testimony against it, and essentially feeds her 12 year old fetus through the tube.


Mountains out of mole hills.... LOTS of organizations and families have suggested screening movies and books before you give it to a kid. It's called parenting.

Kinda like some of you would freak if your kid wanted to read Pro-Mormon books or listen to missionaries.

JMS

Re: Evidence of Mormon Brainwashing

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:57 am
by _Mister Scratch
jskains wrote:Mountains out of mole hills.... LOTS of organizations and families have suggested screening movies and books before you give it to a kid. It's called parenting.


JMS


Normally, though, these parents are looking to screen out profanity, or nudity, or discussions of sex, or drug use, etc. What good reason is there for excluding a book which follows the same basic plot as Joseph Smith's spiritual life? (Save that there is no clear answer concerning which church to join.)

Re: Evidence of Mormon Brainwashing

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:02 am
by _charity
Mister Scratch wrote:
jskains wrote:Mountains out of mole hills.... LOTS of organizations and families have suggested screening movies and books before you give it to a kid. It's called parenting.


JMS


Normally, though, these parents are looking to screen out profanity, or nudity, or discussions of sex, or drug use, etc. What good reason is there for excluding a book which follows the same basic plot as Joseph Smith's spiritual life? (Save that there is no clear answer concerning which church to join.)


Scratch have you read the book? Or are you just making a judgement that there is nothing that would be difficult for a 12 year old? And do you know this particular 12 year old?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:32 am
by _Gadianton
The daughter got this from the school library. It's not a Penthouse or a HBO original. I'd most certainly screen those first. And Josh is wrong, if my child brought home pro-Mormon material, I most certainly would not prohibit him or her from reading it. I'd suggest that we both read it, and discuss it. Especially at age 12.

Scratch's point is a good one. Yes, why Joseph Smith went to all the churches and likewise joined none of them. I suppose the only thing that would have redeemed this book for the fanatical mother would have been if the main character got tracted out by missionaries and joined the Mormon church.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:54 am
by _charity
Gadianton, you been in a school library lately? You might be surprised. I have grandkids in school. [/i]

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:10 pm
by _truth dancer
I'm all for involved parenting, and I would not say this story is an example of "brainwashing," but, a mother who is this concerned about a twelve year old reading Judy Blume seems, in my experience seems to be WAY out of touch with the reality of a twelve year old.

And... I think Scratch brings up an excellent point. Joseph Smith searched for the one and only true church but members are to NOT follow his example.

Sort of strange actually....

:-)



~dancer~