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Since almost all Scratch's threads are about someone else I thought I would let one be about him.

So now Mr. Scratch

I am curious.

What is it that YOU BELIEVE? Ray has implied you are LDS. I must say that surprised me. Course I am LDS and I am not always positive on LDS things.

I point out things that I take issue with or that raise concerns for me. Yet I do not think all is bad and am happy to stay a worshiping LDS.

But you never ever are positive about anything LDS, least that I have seen. So, tell us, as you accuse Ray of hypocrisy, where is it you stand on the LDS Church? You a member? TR holder? What is up with you? If I recall I asked you that once before and you dodged. So, here is your chance on a little thread all about you.

Jason Bourne wrote:But you never ever are positive about anything LDS, least that I have seen. So, tell us, as you accuse Ray of hypocrisy, where is it you stand on the LDS Church? You a member? TR holder? What is up with you? If I recall I asked you that once before and you dodged. So, here is your chance on a little thread all about you.

Jason, Scratch is "out of bounds" on these questions, and he has explained why: He's afraid of being personally attacked.

Jason Attacks. Trust me I know. He might even call him an ASS.

Jason Bourne wrote:Since almost all Scratch's threads are about someone else I thought I would let one be about him.

So now Mr. Scratch

I am curious.

What is it that YOU BELIEVE? Ray has implied you are LDS. I must say that surprised me. Course I am LDS and I am not always positive on LDS things.

I point out things that I take issue with or that raise concerns for me. Yet I do not think all is bad and am happy to stay a worshiping LDS.

But you never ever are positive about anything LDS, least that I have seen. So, tell us, as you accuse Ray of hypocrisy, where is it you stand on the LDS Church? You a member? TR holder? What is up with you? If I recall I asked you that once before and you dodged. So, here is your chance on a little thread all about you.

I'm not sure Scratch attacks the church as much as he attacks the church's official and self-appointed apologists. He seems to have little patience with them.

harmony wrote:

Jason Bourne wrote:Since almost all Scratch's threads are about someone else I thought I would let one be about him.

So now Mr. Scratch

I am curious.

What is it that YOU BELIEVE? Ray has implied you are LDS. I must say that surprised me. Course I am LDS and I am not always positive on LDS things.

I point out things that I take issue with or that raise concerns for me. Yet I do not think all is bad and am happy to stay a worshiping LDS.

But you never ever are positive about anything LDS, least that I have seen. So, tell us, as you accuse Ray of hypocrisy, where is it you stand on the LDS Church? You a member? TR holder? What is up with you? If I recall I asked you that once before and you dodged. So, here is your chance on a little thread all about you.

I'm not sure Scratch attacks the church as much as he attacks the church's official and self-appointed apologists. He seems to have little patience with them.

I have to disagree there. Scratch sees evil in many things about the Church and brings up claims (in my opinion usually ill-founded ones) of corruption within the Church and the lack of spiritual direction.

The Nehor wrote:I have to disagree there. Scratch sees evil in many things about the Church and brings up claims (in my opinion usually ill-founded ones) of corruption within the Church and the lack of spiritual direction.

Would not harmony's example ("the church's official and self-appointed apologists") be part of "corruption and lack of spiritual direction?" Given his stated interest in "perfecting the members," perhaps he could be likened unto a latter-day Jedediah Grant?

OUT OF MY MISERY wrote:Jason Attacks. Trust me I know. He might even call him an ASS.

Oh an little miserable never attacks. Boo hoo. You can dish it out but you cannot take it? Poor baby.

Ray A wrote:

Jason Bourne wrote:But you never ever are positive about anything LDS, least that I have seen. So, tell us, as you accuse Ray of hypocrisy, where is it you stand on the LDS Church? You a member? TR holder? What is up with you? If I recall I asked you that once before and you dodged. So, here is your chance on a little thread all about you.

Jason, Scratch is "out of bounds" on these questions, and he has explained why: He's afraid of being personally attacked.

I think we should call him on this one.

I'm not sure Scratch attacks the church as much as he attacks the church's official and self-appointed apologists. He seems to have little patience with them.

Scratch attacks almost every aspect of the Church as well. He also smears, spins, and does charecter assisination. Was Josh an big time apologist? Is Ray?

Scratch needs to state what he believes or else in my opinion, his words ring hollow.

Blixa wrote:

The Nehor wrote:I have to disagree there. Scratch sees evil in many things about the Church and brings up claims (in my opinion usually ill-founded ones) of corruption within the Church and the lack of spiritual direction.

Would not harmony's example ("the church's official and self-appointed apologists") be part of "corruption and lack of spiritual direction?" Given his stated interest in "perfecting the members," perhaps he could be likened unto a latter-day Jedediah Grant?

Scratch has a mission of perfecting the members? What a hoot. He sure goes about it in a funny way.

Well this furthers the reason for him proclaiming what his belief is about the Church. Is he a member? TR holder? Does he hold a calling? Till he tells us, at least for me, he will be considered disingenuous to the upper limits and his words will mean nothing.

I know of no one on this board who has not given some idea of where they stand on these things accept for our self appointed spin doctor.