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"Families are forever!"?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:06 am
by _LCD2YOU
First, this is what I believe I heard about "Families are forever":

It seems when you die and you've been a good person, you go to heaven, right? Okay now eventually you'll be met by your spouse(s) and all of your kids.

From what I understand the happy family will live like that forever until the man becomes a God himself and then even beyond. Now this happy little family has the hunky, virile husband, his young, beautiful and oh so hot wife, not to forget all of their children they had on Earth who are playing at their feet.

Problem. Isn't the husband a child of another guy who is a child of and so on? Same goes for his wife, she's a child of someone else, right? Then the kids supposedly get married and have their own kids or have kids then get married but I digress, so who's playing at whose feet again?

Or am I all wrong?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:20 am
by _Moniker
You just confused the hell outta me. Don't do that again.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:33 am
by _harmony
There are no children in heaven.

Re: "Families are forever!"?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:26 am
by _Tidejwe
LCD2YOU wrote:First, this is what I believe I heard about "Families are forever":

It seems when you die and you've been a good person, you go to heaven, right? Okay now eventually you'll be met by your spouse(s) and all of your kids.

From what I understand the happy family will live like that forever until the man becomes a God himself and then even beyond. Now this happy little family has the hunky, virile husband, his young, beautiful and oh so hot wife, not to forget all of their children they had on Earth who are playing at their feet.

Problem. Isn't the husband a child of another guy who is a child of and so on? Same goes for his wife, she's a child of someone else, right? Then the kids supposedly get married and have their own kids or have kids then get married but I digress, so who's playing at whose feet again?

Or am I all wrong?


I read a GREAT blog by an ex-Mormon detailing their concerns with this problem many months ago and saved it because I liked it so much. For those interested, please read the following as it might give us more to discuss and refer to:

http://byzantium.wordpress.com/2007/02/24/incoherent-eternal-families/

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:34 am
by _bcspace
From what I understand the happy family will live like that forever until the man becomes a God himself and then even beyond.


Don't forget that the wife is also a Goddess.

Now this happy little family has the hunky, virile husband, his young, beautiful and oh so hot wife, not to forget all of their children they had on Earth who are playing at their feet.


Sounds good to me except...

Problem. Isn't the husband a child of another guy who is a child of and so on? Same goes for his wife, she's a child of someone else, right? Then the kids supposedly get married and have their own kids or have kids then get married but I digress, so who's playing at whose feet again?


I think we are all grown up. However, there is the concept that during the millenium, children grow up without sin unto salvation. But that's not the CK (yet).

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:01 am
by _Tidejwe
bcspace wrote:Don't forget that the wife is also a Goddess.


Heh, this reminds me of a Stake President who announced in Stake Conference that "Goddess" was false doctrine and is never used by the Lord, or the scriptures, or the prophets (as he claimed). From what I got out of the rest of his discourse, he was inferring that Women will be "Gods" and they shouldn't be referred to as a "Goddess" because there is no such things. Silly Mormons and their semantics...then again...even God plays semantics, so it's not surprising His followers do too.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:44 pm
by _Yoda
Tidejwe wrote:
bcspace wrote:Don't forget that the wife is also a Goddess.


Heh, this reminds me of a Stake President who announced in Stake Conference that "Goddess" was false doctrine and is never used by the Lord, or the scriptures, or the prophets (as he claimed). From what I got out of the rest of his discourse, he was inferring that Women will be "Gods" and they shouldn't be referred to as a "Goddess" because there is no such things. Silly Mormons and their semantics...then again...even God plays semantics, so it's not surprising His followers do too.


Um, considering that the term, Goddess, is used as part of the temple ceremony, I would say that the Stake President is all wet, unless he feels that the temple ceremony was not inspired by God.

Re: "Families are forever!"?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:28 pm
by _Scottie
LCD2YOU wrote:First, this is what I believe I heard about "Families are forever":

It seems when you die and you've been a good person, you go to heaven, right? Okay now eventually you'll be met by your spouse(s) and all of your kids.

From what I understand the happy family will live like that forever until the man becomes a God himself and then even beyond. Now this happy little family has the hunky, virile husband, his young, beautiful and oh so hot wife, not to forget all of their children they had on Earth who are playing at their feet.

Problem. Isn't the husband a child of another guy who is a child of and so on? Same goes for his wife, she's a child of someone else, right? Then the kids supposedly get married and have their own kids or have kids then get married but I digress, so who's playing at whose feet again?

Or am I all wrong?


This is a great Arnold Friberg picture here, but exactly where did you get that this is what it will be like??

I'm not sure anyone has actually described what the sealing ordinances do in the afterlife, other than it "keeps families together", and without it, we won't be together.

Again, I just don't understand how intelligences such as ourselves all sat in the council in Heaven and cried hallelujah when God presented this plan??? God must be one stupid son of a bitch, and I'm guessing that we were just trying not to get cast out like the other 1/3 did that disagreed with him. "You betcha Elohim...whatever you say!! Free agency...BEST PLAN EVER!! Uh huh!! Sealings on Earth in order to bind our families in Heaven, but it's only going to be available on the earth for a couple of hundred years cause you're going to allow the men of the Earth to apostacise for a couple of thousand years?? Wow...GENIOUS!!! No, really...just don't strike me down to outer darkness."

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:37 pm
by _Tidejwe
liz3564 wrote:
Tidejwe wrote:
bcspace wrote:Don't forget that the wife is also a Goddess.


Heh, this reminds me of a Stake President who announced in Stake Conference that "Goddess" was false doctrine and is never used by the Lord, or the scriptures, or the prophets (as he claimed). From what I got out of the rest of his discourse, he was inferring that Women will be "Gods" and they shouldn't be referred to as a "Goddess" because there is no such things. Silly Mormons and their semantics...then again...even God plays semantics, so it's not surprising His followers do too.


Um, considering that the term, Goddess, is used as part of the temple ceremony, I would say that the Stake President is all wet, unless he feels that the temple ceremony was not inspired by God.


Actually, it's not used in the temple at all. Most people think they heard it said there, but it's not. They only say Queen and Priestess in the temple. I remember I checked all older versions as well just to be sure and sure enough it was never said. :)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:47 pm
by _Scottie
Tidejwe wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
Tidejwe wrote:
bcspace wrote:Don't forget that the wife is also a Goddess.


Heh, this reminds me of a Stake President who announced in Stake Conference that "Goddess" was false doctrine and is never used by the Lord, or the scriptures, or the prophets (as he claimed). From what I got out of the rest of his discourse, he was inferring that Women will be "Gods" and they shouldn't be referred to as a "Goddess" because there is no such things. Silly Mormons and their semantics...then again...even God plays semantics, so it's not surprising His followers do too.


Um, considering that the term, Goddess, is used as part of the temple ceremony, I would say that the Stake President is all wet, unless he feels that the temple ceremony was not inspired by God.


Actually, it's not used in the temple at all. Most people think they heard it said there, but it's not. They only say Queen and Priestess in the temple. I remember I checked all older versions as well just to be sure and sure enough it was never said. :)


Did you check the washing and annointing and the sealing prayers as well, or just the endowment?