Inside Mormonism

[_JAK]

Speaking of Faith with Krista Tippette has an entire program on “Inside Mormonism” in which she interviews Robert Millet.

From this website, you can hear or read the interview which aired this week on National Public Radio (NPR).

JAK

[_Imwashingmypirate]

I am listening to this thing. I am noticing that they are saying things like "interpretation" of God and "growing religion". But really if this is Gods true religion, it wouldn't be an interpretation or a growing religion (in the context they used).

I feel that this dude, isn't really answering the questions. Not really.

[_dartagnan]

More "straightforward" answers from Mormons, huh charity?

Remember, Millett is the same guy on youtube telling other Mormons to change the question whenever uncomfortable questions are presented to them.

[_dartagnan]

Ms. Tippett: So Elohim is a God the Father, right?

Mr. Millet: Sure. Elohim would be God the Father. Jehovah or Yahweh would be the premortal Jesus Christ.

This is funny because when I brought up this issue earlier in the year, and noted how this doesn't bode well with current biblical scholarship, at MADB I was told that the above wasn't official LDS doctrine, even though it is explicitly stated in the temple.

Mr. Millet: What I'm going to do is I'm going to address what I think we know and what I think we don't know.

Since when in the heck was that ever acceptable? Imagine people going up to the podium during testimony meeting, saying, I think I know the Church is true. I think I know Joseph Smith was a prophet. I think I know the Book of Mormon is true, etc.

Mr. Millet: That's right. That was Mike Huckabee's remark the other day. And he said this. He said, "Well, it is true. You need to understand we believe that before we were born, we all, not just Jesus, but that we all lived in a premortal existence. And yes, Jesus and Lucifer," he said, "were in that world together." But let me be straightforward on this. Jesus was God, and there was never a time when He and Lucifer were on the same plane.

Now Millett is pandering to Evangelicals. This is simply false. Jesus and Satan were on the same plane when they were created by Elohim. What set Jesus apart was that he was chosen, after Elohhim accepted his proposed plan over that of Satan. Then Satan rebelled and was kicked out.

Mr. Millet: Now, that's a kind of mystery in itself for us, if you will, Krista, because it's, we believe that Jesus is the — Jehovah was the firstborn spirit son of God. And yet, we believe that Jesus became God and was with God and was God. We have no problem with John 1. The Book of Mormon, in fact, on the title page, calls Him the Eternal God.

More duplicitous pandering. Jesus is a created being in Mormonism. As an apologist I argued that this was sound doctrine and never once did anyone from the apologetic front protest and say, "But Kevin, we really do believe Jesus was always God." We don't. Millett is pulling one of his stunts again.

[_Imwashingmypirate]

More "straightforward" answers from Mormons, huh charity?

Remember, Millett is the same guy on youtube telling other Mormons to change the question whenever uncomfortable questions are presented to them.

I came across that youtube thing. I asked about it at my church and people denied it. People in church know very little over here.

Is that the dude that said, "answer the question that should have been asked".

[_Imwashingmypirate]

There were lots of things I disagreed with, but mainly that he didn't seem to be answering the questions put forth. He wasn't even cleaver about it. The woman didn't even notice she just carried on. I would have argued.

[_Who Knows]

Ms. Tippett: So Elohim is a God the Father, right?

Mr. Millet: Sure. Elohim would be God the Father. Jehovah or Yahweh would be the premortal Jesus Christ.

This is funny because when I brought up this issue earlier in the year, and noted how this doesn't bode well with current biblical scholarship, at MADB I was told that the above wasn't official LDS doctrine, even though it is explicitly stated in the temple.

Wow. Really? This would be huge, if true. Can you expand on this?

[_krose]

Imagine people going up to the podium during testimony meeting, saying, I think I know the Church is true. I think I know Joseph Smith was a prophet. I think I know the Book of Mormon is true, etc.

It would be more honest. The problem with the standard LDS testimony is that people claim to 'know' the unknowable, when they are really making statements of belief.

[_harmony]

Speaking of Faith with Krista Tippette has an entire program on “Inside Mormonism” in which she interviews Robert Millet.

From this website, you can hear or read the interview which aired this week on National Public Radio (NPR).

JAK

In the grand scheme of things, who is Robert Millet? I don't recall his name on the list of GAs, but I might have slept through that one. 'Cause if he's not a GA/FP, then what's he doing declaring doctrine to the public? I thought that was the prophet's task.

[_karl61]

Speaking of Faith with Krista Tippette has an entire program on “Inside Mormonism” in which she interviews Robert Millet.

From this website, you can hear or read the interview which aired this week on National Public Radio (NPR).

JAK

In the grand scheme of things, who is Robert Millet? I don't recall his name on the list of GAs, but I might have slept through that one. 'Cause if he's not a GA/FP, then what's he doing declaring doctrine to the public? I thought that was the prophet's task.

I think the GA's rely on the big wigs at BYU to keep them up to date on scholarship in the world. You would think that given their place in receiving truth that GA's would have a lot more insight and stun scholars in the world with their insight but it does not seem to happen that way. Historical scholars usally give certain facts about a subject and then the LDS church grinds some of them into their theology to give it a ring of truth.