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Stick a fork in Romney
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:06 pm
by _Runtu
Florida was crucial for Romney, and things look rather bleak for him.
He leads in no Super Tuesday states, and McCain's win makes it unlikely that attitudes will shift.
Giuliani represents the centrist, "Rockefeller" wing of the Republican Party, and his support will most likely go to McCain, not Romney. By contrast, the social conservatives are split between Romney and Huckabee.
The only positive I see is that Romney still has a lot of cash on hand. But then he spent a lot of money in New Hampshire and Iowa, with nothing to show for it.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:09 pm
by _why me
Conservative republicans do not like McCain. Just listen to Lambaugh and Hannity. I have this feeling that the conservative wing of the repubican party will come out and vote for their man and that will not be McCain. But I could be wrong.
A McCain vs. Billary or Obama campaign would alienate the consevative base.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:13 pm
by _Runtu
why me wrote:Conservative republicans do not like McCain. Just listen to Lambaugh and Hannity. I have this feeling that the conservative wing of the repubican party will come out and vote for their man and that will not be McCain. But I could be wrong.
A McCain vs. Billary or Obama campaign would alienate the consevative base.
True, the conservatives do not like McCain. However, as I said, the social conservatives are split between Romney and Huckabee, making it much more likely for McCain to get the nomination. And I think conservatives are realists: McCain consistently does better against Obama and Clinto than Romney or Huckabee do. If faced with a choice between McCain and either of the Democrats, you really think the conservatives would stay home? I don't.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:08 pm
by _Pokatator
Runtu wrote:The Catholic with the Joseph Smith avatar wrote:Conservative republicans do not like McCain. Just listen to Lambaugh and Hannity. I have this feeling that the conservative wing of the repubican party will come out and vote for their man and that will not be McCain. But I could be wrong.
A McCain vs. Billary or Obama campaign would alienate the consevative base.
True, the conservatives do not like McCain. However, as I said, the social conservatives are split between Romney and Huckabee, making it much more likely for McCain to get the nomination. And I think conservatives are realists: McCain consistently does better against Obama and Clinto than Romney or Huckabee do. If faced with a choice between McCain and either of the Democrats, you really think the conservatives would stay home? I don't.
I agree that the conservatives are most likely to be alienated in this election. But can anyone imagine that they will vote for Obama or Hillary over McCain or any other Republican candidate?
I think that Romney and Obama are in the same boat as far as Super Tuesday goes. Neither has the base in those states to oust their rivals. It will be Clinton (two for one) vs McCain in the general election and the conservatives are not going to vote for Hillary. I also think that their dislike for the Clinton's will cause them to vote (and not stay home) for the "lesser of two evils" in their mind, McCain.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:20 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
I'm not sticking a fork in Romney until after Super Tuesday. One little slip by McCain and Romney could pull ahead in the polls...not to mention he has tons of money that he could throw into a last ditch effort.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:31 pm
by _rcrocket
why me wrote: Just listen to Lambaugh and Hannity.
I might as well stick a fork in my eye.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:37 pm
by _why me
rcrocket wrote:why me wrote: Just listen to Lambaugh and Hannity.
I might as well stick a fork in my eye.
Naw...I wouldn't do that. Those two guys are not that bad. That being said, I am not a conservative at all. I am more on the socialist line. Obama might be a good president...he's unique and interesting. But back in the good ol' days, I supported the Gus Hall and Angela Davis ticket. Now those
were the good ol' days, for sure.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:43 pm
by _Sethbag
I'm really wondering whether or not we'll see social conservatives dump Huckabee as hopeless and support Romney just to keep McCain from winning the nomination. It will be interesting to see if there's a backlash against McCain by these social conservatives. For that reason I hope Huckabee stays in, just to provide a "vote sink" for votes that might otherwise go to Romney.
I don't think we can stick a fork in Romney yet. We could have a February Surprise that comes outta nowhere and McCain could plummet, or Romney could soar, or whatever. I think it's still wide open, with McCain having a bit of an advantage. But it's far from over. After Super Tuesday it'll be all over though, unless Romney and McCain split the states and delegate counts 50/50, which would be a little surprising, but I suppose it could happen.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:44 pm
by _guy sajer
rcrocket wrote:why me wrote: Just listen to Lambaugh and Hannity.
I might as well stick a fork in my eye.
Right there with ya on this one.
I'd rather eat ground glass than listen to these two bozos.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:47 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
I hate Hannity...don't think I've ever listened to Rush Limbaugh's show (I prefer music to talk radio).