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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:25 pm
by _The Nehor
I really doubt that a Celestialized World needs cleaning. Call me a visionary but I just don't see it.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:33 pm
by _TrashcanMan79
charity wrote:Having children (supposing that it is possible to do so) is essential to exaltation.

Charity, I would be very interested in your input, either here or on MAD (preferably on MAD), on the topic started by Sargon on that board a few days ago. The thread is titled "Lds Missionaries Teaching Apostasy," and in the OP, Sargon writes:

I recently was informed that missionaries in Newberg, Oregon (very far from me) are teaching their investigadors that they cannot attain the highest degree of glory unless they have children while in mortality. Any ideas as to where they learned this? I have never heard this apostacy preached in all my life.


Since this teaching, one you apparently espouse, is equated with apostasy at the outset, the other LDS apologists have been in lock-step with Sargon in rejecting this as a sound teaching of the gospel.

Very curious as to how you would respond to them, and them to you.

Hope you'll consider it.

The thread is at http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=32316.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:36 pm
by _Gazelam
The Nehor wrote:I really doubt that a Celestialized World needs cleaning. Call me a visionary but I just don't see it.


You should see the dust that gets traipsed in when they come home after a long day of forming worlds from the chaotic matter. And the carbon from the heart of the sun leaves horrible black streaks on the robes. And it all gets brought into the house, little black sooty fingerprints and footprints. You'd think they could form a little rainshower and wash up first before coming home...... And I don't even want to get into what gets brought home after the animals have been formed......

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:39 pm
by _The Nehor
Gazelam wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I really doubt that a Celestialized World needs cleaning. Call me a visionary but I just don't see it.


You should see the dust that gets traipsed in when they come home after a long day of forming worlds from the chaotic matter. And the carbon from the heart of the sun leaves horrible black streaks on the robes. And it all gets brought into the house, little black sooty fingerprints and footprints. You'd think they could form a little rainshower and wash up first before coming home...... And I don't even want to get into what gets brought home after the animals have been formed......


I suspect that the unexalted Celestial beings will be doing things like forming worlds, functioning as angelic beings, teaching children, ministering to the Terrestrial worlds, and having a ton of fun.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:39 pm
by _Coggins7
So, really, there is no place in the celestial kingdom for those who for whatever reason are not cut out for parenthood.



Don't you know Church doctrine Runtu? There are two lower degrees within the Celestial Kingdom for precisely these.