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Who has killed more humans, Satan or God?
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:39 am
by _Boaz & Lidia
According to Bible, Satan has never killed.
If you do not follow him he will not kill you, nor even threaten to kill you.
God on the other hand has a short temper and would kill you on even a good day.
Re: Who has killed more humans, Satan or God?
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:49 am
by _Scottie
Boaz & Lidia wrote:According to Bible, Satan has never killed.
If you do not follow him he will not kill you, nor even threaten to kill you.
God on the other hand has a short temper and would kill you on even a good day.
Yeah, one reason I know God doesn't exist is that there is NO WAY I would have followed such a petty, cruel megalomaniac as He is.
I would have sided with Satan to overthrow the bastard.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:23 am
by _asbestosman
What about Job's family?
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:30 am
by _DonBradley
asbestosman wrote:What about Job's family?
Uh, God killed them on a dare. While the dare was made by Satan, God was the one who took it.
by the way, B&L, the OP question is a good one. One might also ask how many genocides the Bible describes Satan ordering, relative to how many it describes God ordering. (I believe the correct answers are "zero" and "nineteen," respectively.)
Of course, it's been a while since God is supposed to have ordered such a slaughter. As humanity becomes more moral, God appears to do so as well.
Don
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:43 am
by _asbestosman
DonBradley wrote:asbestosman wrote:What about Job's family?
Uh, God killed them on a dare. While the dare was made by Satan, God was the one who took it.
But Job 1 states
12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. Looks like Satan did the work, but God gave permission.
On the other hand, verse 16 talks about the fire from God (lightning) killing Job's sheep.
by the way, B&L, the OP question is a good one. One might also ask how many genocides the Bible describes Satan ordering, relative to how many it describes God ordering. (I believe the correct answers are "zero" and "nineteen," respectively.)
You may be right about genocides, but I recall some murders being influenced such as that of Shadrach, and co. as well as Daniel in the lion's Den. Let us also not forget Pharoah vs the Israelites--that's pretty close to genocide although Satan isn't explicitly given credit for any of it (in fact, the Old Testament states that the Lord hardened Pharoah's heart . . . ).
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:09 pm
by _truth dancer
Yeah but...
God only kills (or commands the killing of), the bad people, children and babies with bad parents, folks who might become bad, and people we think are innocent but may actually become horrible people if God doesn't kill them.
And, you must remember, this earth is only a second in God's time so it doesn't really matter anyway.
(Or something like that).
;-)
~dancer~
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:14 am
by _Gazelam
Satan causes suicide, so add those up.
He inspires people to rape and kill. Add that up.
Would you like to factor in spiritual deaths?
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:19 am
by _karl61
Gazelam wrote:Satan causes suicide, so add those up.
He inspires people to rape and kill. Add that up.
Would you like to factor in spiritual deaths?
lets see: I just finished judges and I'm now in samuel: I think Saul was told to wipe out the amerites: women, children, infants and even the live stock. He did not kill the best live stock and got into bad trouble for it.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:31 am
by _John Larsen
DonBradley wrote:asbestosman wrote:What about Job's family?
Of course, it's been a while since God is supposed to have ordered such a slaughter. As humanity becomes more moral, God appears to do so as well.
Don
No, He's just holding out for the big killing orgy that's coming at the end.
John
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:33 am
by _Boaz & Lidia
Gazelam wrote:Satan causes suicide, so add those up.
He inspires people to rape and kill. Add that up.
Would you like to factor in spiritual deaths?
Satan does not cause suicide.
Religion is the root of guilt, not Satan.
God commanded people to kill, Satan never has.
Spiritual death is a term from cult conditioning. I call it awakening to reality.