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Concentration camps for Mormons?

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:43 am
by _capt jack
Last May we had Hammer declaring himself a "jew of the 21st century".

Now, courtesy of the MAD board, we have cjcampbell predicting an impending "Final Solution" to the Mormon problem.

He initially mentions the Final Solution in a thread dealing with "Virulent anti-mormonism" found at mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=32674&st=0

Quoting from his post:

The Wall Street Journal ran an article today describing what it called "virulent anti-Mormonism" that is far deeper and more widespread than most members realize, and what the Church is doing to counter-act it. Many Church leaders were reluctant to respond to some of the worst critics for fear of being seen as taking sides in a political contest. With Governor Romney out of the race, however, the gloves are coming off.

Some of the worst offenders, such as Huckabee's 'innocent' question as to whether we believed that Jesus Christ and Satan are brothers implying that we are devil worshippers, and Larry O'Donnell's rant about Joseph Smith, calling him a criminal, pro-slavery, and a bigot, were way out of line. Indeed, some of the stuff that people have been freely saying in the media and on the Internet is straight out of the same playbook as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The WSJ noted that Elder Ballard's YouTube appearance answering the question "Are Mormons Christian" had received some 29,000 hits, but that a clip from The God Makers had received over 900,000. Hate is far more popular than truth.

To a certain extent, of course, the critics are their own worst enemies. September Dawn was almost universally panned as blatant anti-Mormon fantasy, yet it sold quite well in some quarters.

Historically, our response to this type of criticism has been, as noted by Armand Maus, "to sorrowfully turn away and close the door." We can no longer afford to keep doing this. If politicians find that they can get votes by trashing the Church, it is only a matter of time before someone starts promising a "final solution to the Mormon problem." The Church's web site has announced that Elders Ballard and Cook will be working to publicly counter the worst of this bigotry. (emphasis added)


Later, in another thread that is a poll on the extent of "Virulent Anti-Mormonism"--mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=32678--cjcampbell adds the following:
But I do think that most members would be shocked at how bad things are. I personally believe we are only a few steps away from concentration camps and gas ovens -- the hate is that bad -- but that the vast majority of members, including most of those posting here, are whistling in the dark, hoping that the monsters will just go away if they are ignored.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:49 am
by _skippy the dead
Oh. My. Hell.

What a freakin' nut job.

But then again, there is a faction of LDS that revel in their persecution complexes. I'm sure this only serves to strengthen the nut job's testimony of the truthfulness of the church.

Re: Concentration camps for Mormons?

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:56 am
by _Coggins7
capt jack wrote:Last May we had Hammer declaring himself a "jew of the 21st century".

Now, courtesy of the MAD board, we have cjcampbell predicting an impending "Final Solution" to the Mormon problem.

He initially mentions the Final Solution in a thread dealing with "Virulent anti-mormonism" found at mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=32674&st=0

Quoting from his post:

The Wall Street Journal ran an article today describing what it called "virulent anti-Mormonism" that is far deeper and more widespread than most members realize, and what the Church is doing to counter-act it. Many Church leaders were reluctant to respond to some of the worst critics for fear of being seen as taking sides in a political contest. With Governor Romney out of the race, however, the gloves are coming off.

Some of the worst offenders, such as Huckabee's 'innocent' question as to whether we believed that Jesus Christ and Satan are brothers implying that we are devil worshippers, and Larry O'Donnell's rant about Joseph Smith, calling him a criminal, pro-slavery, and a bigot, were way out of line. Indeed, some of the stuff that people have been freely saying in the media and on the Internet is straight out of the same playbook as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The WSJ noted that Elder Ballard's YouTube appearance answering the question "Are Mormons Christian" had received some 29,000 hits, but that a clip from The God Makers had received over 900,000. Hate is far more popular than truth.

To a certain extent, of course, the critics are their own worst enemies. September Dawn was almost universally panned as blatant anti-Mormon fantasy, yet it sold quite well in some quarters.

Historically, our response to this type of criticism has been, as noted by Armand Maus, "to sorrowfully turn away and close the door." We can no longer afford to keep doing this. If politicians find that they can get votes by trashing the Church, it is only a matter of time before someone starts promising a "final solution to the Mormon problem." The Church's web site has announced that Elders Ballard and Cook will be working to publicly counter the worst of this bigotry. (emphasis added)


Later, in another thread that is a poll on the extent of "Virulent Anti-Mormonism"--mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=32678--cjcampbell adds the following:
But I do think that most members would be shocked at how bad things are. I personally believe we are only a few steps away from concentration camps and gas ovens -- the hate is that bad -- but that the vast majority of members, including most of those posting here, are whistling in the dark, hoping that the monsters will just go away if they are ignored.




Hi Scratch.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:30 am
by _Gadianton
This is a fun aspect of Mormon apologists. Everyone has to either admit the church is true or say absolutely nothing about it. Even the slightest criticism sends them into persecution mode where to question the church is to iinnagurate Mormon genocide.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:11 am
by _SatanWasSetUp
What would be the "final solution" to the Mormon problem? Maybe we could round them all up and force them to watch an R-rated movie and drink a cup of coffee. Maybe we could force Halestorm to stop making movies. We could make anti-depressants illegal.

Re: Concentration camps for Mormons?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:10 pm
by _guy sajer
capt jack wrote:Last May we had Hammer declaring himself a "jew of the 21st century".

Now, courtesy of the MAD board, we have cjcampbell predicting an impending "Final Solution" to the Mormon problem.

He initially mentions the Final Solution in a thread dealing with "Virulent anti-mormonism" found at mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=32674&st=0

Quoting from his post:

The Wall Street Journal ran an article today describing what it called "virulent anti-Mormonism" that is far deeper and more widespread than most members realize, and what the Church is doing to counter-act it. Many Church leaders were reluctant to respond to some of the worst critics for fear of being seen as taking sides in a political contest. With Governor Romney out of the race, however, the gloves are coming off.

Some of the worst offenders, such as Huckabee's 'innocent' question as to whether we believed that Jesus Christ and Satan are brothers implying that we are devil worshippers, and Larry O'Donnell's rant about Joseph Smith, calling him a criminal, pro-slavery, and a bigot, were way out of line. Indeed, some of the stuff that people have been freely saying in the media and on the Internet is straight out of the same playbook as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The WSJ noted that Elder Ballard's YouTube appearance answering the question "Are Mormons Christian" had received some 29,000 hits, but that a clip from The God Makers had received over 900,000. Hate is far more popular than truth.

To a certain extent, of course, the critics are their own worst enemies. September Dawn was almost universally panned as blatant anti-Mormon fantasy, yet it sold quite well in some quarters.

Historically, our response to this type of criticism has been, as noted by Armand Maus, "to sorrowfully turn away and close the door." We can no longer afford to keep doing this. If politicians find that they can get votes by trashing the Church, it is only a matter of time before someone starts promising a "final solution to the Mormon problem." The Church's web site has announced that Elders Ballard and Cook will be working to publicly counter the worst of this bigotry. (emphasis added)


Later, in another thread that is a poll on the extent of "Virulent Anti-Mormonism"--mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=32678--cjcampbell adds the following:
But I do think that most members would be shocked at how bad things are. I personally believe we are only a few steps away from concentration camps and gas ovens -- the hate is that bad -- but that the vast majority of members, including most of those posting here, are whistling in the dark, hoping that the monsters will just go away if they are ignored.


Paranoid lunatic doesn't even begin to describe this bozo

99.99% of the world's population never give a thought to Mormonism and even if they did, they couldn't care less.

Fortunately, the EV nutcases don't run this country yet; and judging by Huckabee's primary performance, it'll be a while before they do.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:24 pm
by _Imwashingmypirate
I would like to go to a concentration camp. I lack a great deal of concentration and I might actually benefit from it.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:27 pm
by _Blixa
Imwashingmypirate wrote:I would like to go to a concentration camp. I lack a great deal of concentration and I might actually benefit from it.


Brillant. And sig-worthy.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:30 pm
by _Imwashingmypirate
lol.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:35 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
My guess is it's just a bunch of over the top hyperbole and doomsday fear mongering. I don't take seriously this type of talk.