Bokovoy: "Tornado Victims Deserved It!"

[_Mister Scratch]

This was mentioned in a tangential way on Dartagnan's Romney thread, but certainly, this deserves its own thread. For those who are still functioning in a "MAD blackout," it needs to be mentioned that a temporary "Politics" folder has been established in the "LDS Dialog and Discussion" forum, somewhat akin to the old "Pundits" folder. This politics folder, evidently, has been quite a scorched-earth battle ground, especially now that Romney has dropped out of the race. In a notable thread entitled "Stick a Fork in Romney," budding scholar-cum-Mopologist David Bokovoy really lost his cool. Here is the typically polite poster known as "rhinomelon" expressing his disgust at some of the TBMs' sentiments:

To be quite honest, the enthusiasm I've had about Romney has dwindled considerably simply due to the rhetoric of his supporters in this Politics folder. God sent the tornadoes to punish the states that supported Huckabee? Absolutely ridiculous, and worse than bigotry.

Now, that's pretty nasty. The tornado victims deserved it??? You would expect this kind of stuff to be smacked down by good, God-fearing Christian folks. But guess what?

God sent the tornadoes to punish the states that supported Huckabee? Absolutely ridiculous, and worse than bigotry.

So are you saying that he didn't?

Wow! Bokovoy has really lost his cool. Such a rotten thing to say! Essentially, he is asserting that Heavenly Father smote these "sinners" due to their lack of support for and criticism of Romney. He goes on:

So are you saying that he didn't?

Yes I am. Are you saying He did?

Well, seeing as I went down to shake Mitt's hand and cheer for him when he cast his vote and my wife sat on the stage of his final rally (with me cheering from the crowd), given my current emotional attachment, better for right now to plea the fifth.

Ahem. Well. What can you say to this? To be fair, Bokovoy later apologized, but, I think we can all agree, this was quite an appalling outburst. He seems to be taking after his mentors, which, of course, is tragic.

[_dartagnan]

Dan Peterson ran to help him out as usual, but I believe it was an attempt to take focus off of Bokovoy's emotional meltdown.

[_Mister Scratch]

Dan Peterson ran to help him out as usual, but I believe it was an attempt to take focus off of Bokovoy's emotional meltdown.

Could be. DCP tried to deflect attention away onto Hugh Hewitt's blog, and all of the supposedly horrible "anti-Mormon" filth being posted there. In any event, this "slip-up" from Bokovoy was really staggering, in my opinion. A very, very ugly and nasty sentiment to harbor. One of the posters (perhaps hagoth) noted that s/he lives in Alabama, at which point poor David realized that he was tasting the rancid flavor of his own crap-stained foot. He really ought to issue a more formal apology, or, perhaps the MADmods can do him a favor and delete the whole thread. Stuff like this could seriously soil his credibility.

[_charity]

To be quite honest, the enthusiasm I've had about Romney has dwindled considerably simply due to the rhetoric of his supporters in this Politics folder. God sent the tornadoes to punish the states that supported Huckabee? Absolutely ridiculous, and worse than bigotry.

Now, that's pretty nasty. The tornado victims deserved it??? You would expect this kind of stuff to be smacked down by good, God-fearing Christian folks. But guess what?

God sent the tornadoes to punish the states that supported Huckabee? Absolutely ridiculous, and worse than bigotry.

So are you saying that he didn't?

Yeah, he said God didn't. This is what Bokovoy actually said, "Though I am a bit emotional and upset over the fact that Romney dropped out of the race today and though I do believe that this is in part due to Anti-Mormon bigotry that runs throughout the South, I do not believe that the tragedy was a divine punishment sent against the Bible belt for casting a vote for the Anti-Christ."

Since you knew the whole thread, why didn't you post this from David? I have to keep going over on to the MA&D board to get the straight story. I might be lead to think that there are posters here who have anti-Mormon agendas, and will go to great lengths to try to show that. Even if they have to ignore the truth.

[_Runtu]

Since you knew the whole thread, why didn't you post this from David? I have to keep going over on to the MA&D board to get the straight story. I might be lead to think that there are posters here who have anti-Mormon agendas, and will go to great lengths to try to show that. Even if they have to ignore the truth.

charity,

You said that about me, that I had excised pertinent stuff that somehow gave context to Will's ranting. Are you suggesting that posting Will's rant here was evidence of my anti-Mormon agenda, yea, even my ignoring the truth?

[_Mister Scratch]

Yeah, he said God didn't. This is what Bokovoy actually said, "Though I am a bit emotional and upset over the fact that Romney dropped out of the race today and though I do believe that this is in part due to Anti-Mormon bigotry that runs throughout the South, I do not believe that the tragedy was a divine punishment sent against the Bible belt for casting a vote for the Anti-Christ."

(emphasis added)

Would you care to interpret the portion I've bolded? Bokovoy *still* insists that the "sinner bigots" in the South were "smited" by God due to their "anti-Mormon bigotry." He isn't really sorry, hence his "I am a bit emotional" qualification.

Since you knew the whole thread, why didn't you post this from David?

I noted in my OP that Bokovoy apologized. Your posting this quote from him actually does further damage to his already shaky reputation, since it demonstrates his lack of serious contrition.

[_charity]

Yeah, he said God didn't. This is what Bokovoy actually said, "Though I am a bit emotional and upset over the fact that Romney dropped out of the race today and though I do believe that this is in part due to Anti-Mormon bigotry that runs throughout the South, I do not believe that the tragedy was a divine punishment sent against the Bible belt for casting a vote for the Anti-Christ."

(emphasis added)

Would you care to interpret the portion I've bolded? Bokovoy *still* insists that the "sinner bigots" in the South were "smited" by God due to their "anti-Mormon bigotry." He isn't really sorry, hence his "I am a bit emotional" qualification.

Since you knew the whole thread, why didn't you post this from David?

I noted in my OP that Bokovoy apologized. Your posting this quote from him actually does further damage to his already shaky reputation, since it demonstrates his lack of serious contrition.

You still are scanning the page with your eyes closed. What he said there, in the part you bolded is that he believes Romney drpped out of the presidentail race to IN PART to anti-Mormon bigotry. There is no statement in there regardikng the hurricane! He does not use the word "sinner." You stuck that in yourself. He is specifically talking about "dropping out" and "anti-Mormon bigotry."

Your "he later apologized" doesn't match seeing his actual words. And since youi were cut nd pasting what you thought made your point, I can see why you wouldn't want to cut and paste what would cut your feet out from under you!

[_charity]

Since you knew the whole thread, why didn't you post this from David? I have to keep going over on to the MA&D board to get the straight story. I might be lead to think that there are posters here who have anti-Mormon agendas, and will go to great lengths to try to show that. Even if they have to ignore the truth.

charity,

You said that about me, that I had excised pertinent stuff that somehow gave context to Will's ranting. Are you suggesting that posting Will's rant here was evidence of my anti-Mormon agenda, yea, even my ignoring the truth?

I always want to see things in context. And as complete as possible. What Scratch did is to omit very pertinent information from the discussion. And then try to misinterpret what was shown to him.

[_Mister Scratch]

Yeah, he said God didn't. This is what Bokovoy actually said, "Though I am a bit emotional and upset over the fact that Romney dropped out of the race today and though I do believe that this is in part due to Anti-Mormon bigotry that runs throughout the South, I do not believe that the tragedy was a divine punishment sent against the Bible belt for casting a vote for the Anti-Christ."

(emphasis added)

Would you care to interpret the portion I've bolded? Bokovoy *still* insists that the "sinner bigots" in the South were "smited" by God due to their "anti-Mormon bigotry." He isn't really sorry, hence his "I am a bit emotional" qualification.

Since you knew the whole thread, why didn't you post this from David?

I noted in my OP that Bokovoy apologized. Your posting this quote from him actually does further damage to his already shaky reputation, since it demonstrates his lack of serious contrition.

You still are scanning the page with your eyes closed. What he said there, in the part you bolded is that he believes Romney drpped out of the presidentail race to IN PART to anti-Mormon bigotry. There is no statement in there regardikng the hurricane! He does not use the word "sinner." You stuck that in yourself. He is specifically talking about "dropping out" and "anti-Mormon bigotry."

Um, "hurricane"? And you are accusing *me* of poor comprehension skills? Further, I'm sorry, Charity, but your Golden Boy has really hurt himself with this outburst. There is nothing in his sentence to clarify his statement about "anti-Mormon bigotry"---i.e., it is unclear, from a grammatical standpoint, whether it refers to Romney's "dropping out," or the tornados.

Your "he later apologized" doesn't match seeing his actual words.

You're right about that! I thought I was doing him a favor. Instead, you had to come mouthing off and showing us all how unapologetic Dave actually is. In light of his other remarks, I have to say that this "retraction" seems more than a little disingenuous.

And since youi were cut nd pasting what you thought made your point, I can see why you wouldn't want to cut and paste what would cut your feet out from under you!

Which "point" do you think I was trying to make? Go ahead and cry into your mug of Milo, Charity. David really blew it this time.

[_Gadianton]

wow! I was hopping you'd find your way to comment on this matter, Scratch. It's pretty scary what politics and apologetics stirred together can induce in the behavior of an otherwise decent human being. What I find telling is that while he later admitted that he didn't believe the tornadoes were sent from God, that clearly he at one point wanted them to have been. And of course, everyone in the south is an anti-Mormon, just like everyone in California surfs.

Not to mention that his devotion to Mitt was one of virtual emotional frenzy. If Mitt's hold on his followers is generally like this, it would be downright dangerous to have him in office.