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Ancient Peruvian Iron Mine

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:13 am
by _moksha

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:02 am
by _beastie
It's been known for a while that Peru was more advanced in terms of metallurgy than the rest of the New World, but there is no evidence that this skill was transplanted beyond Peru prior to around 900 AD. Here's a pertinent citation from my website page on metallurgy, from the book "Out of the Fiery Furnace", which is a general history of metallurgy.

“One intriguing finding is that, contrary to the direction of human occupation of the Americas, knowledge of gold working spread from south to north. The earliest use of beaten gold has been dated to about 2000 BC, in southern Peru. After that, for perhaps two thousand years, there were purely local developments in Peru, involving other metals, including silver, copper and platinum. Then, around the time of Christ, advanced gold technology, including lost wax casting, appeared in Colombia, on the northern coast of South America. Gold working reached Panama in the fifth century AD, and by about the eighth century it was flourishing in Mexico.



In Peru, before the Spanish conquest, copper was possibly the most common metal in use, but the next most abundant was gold, followed by silver. Meteoric iron was rare, and iron smelting was unknown. Nearly all the gold was alluvial, recovered from placer deposits in rivers. Before the grains of gold could be used they had to be melted together in clay crucibles. The Peruvians had no bellows, but used blow pipes to raise their furnace temperatures. The most widely used technique of gold working was the beating of gold and gold alloys into sheets, which were cut and shaped to make the desired objects. Casting was little used.


http://www.mormonmesoamerica.com/metallurgy.htm



I'm not sure why this particular find got press because I haven't studied Peru enough to know why it was considered unique or a breakthrough. But in regards to evidence for the Book of Mormon, it's not, unless they shift the setting to Peru, which will cause more problems then it will solve (due to social complexity issues).

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:15 am
by _skippy the dead
You can also see a discussion (which often borders on the inane) of the topic here at MADB: http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=32562

Re: Ancient Peruvian Iron Mine

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:22 am
by _evolving
moksha wrote:Okay experts, what do you make of this?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080129125405.htm


shiny rocks and red oxide paint, does not make a strong argument for advanced metallurgy... in my opinion

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:46 am
by _Trevor
If there are iron mines in Peru, then the Book of Mormon must be an ancient document.

And yes, I'm being sarcastic.