What do Non-Lds archeologists and anthropologist think?

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What do Non-Lds archeologists and anthropologist think?

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The link below is about two exhibits being shown simultaneously in Mexico and Egypt comparing Egyptian and Olmec artifacts. I am not making any claims. I just think it is intersting.

Are you linking this on your Meso-American website, beastie?

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2008/883/he1.htm
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And how does this help Mormonism? Lehi was a Jew. I see no claim anywhere in the Book of Mormon that Egyptian religion was practiced in America.

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John Larsen wrote:And how does this help Mormonism? Lehi was a Jew. I see no claim anywhere in the Book of Mormon that Egyptian religion was practiced in America.

John


If I were to make any claims at all it would be to argue for diffusionism. And no, I am not talking about the 100 monkeys, idea.
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Post by _beastie »

There are many parallels between Mesoamerica and other cultures. This is very different than proposing that one culture was influenced by the other. I don't believe that argument is even being made in your own link, by the way. From that article:

As for the ancient Egyptians and the Mexicans, who never met and lived centuries and thousands of miles apart, both worshipped feathered-serpent deities, built pyramids and developed a 365-day calendar.


I haven't read a single Mesoamerican scholar who suggests that Mesoamerica was influenced by Egypt. The more favored idea is that Mesoamerica was possibly influenced by Southeast Asia, although that is also purely speculative without serious evidence.

Nowhere on my website do I argue that it's impossible that the Old World had contact with the New World, by the way.

Essay debunking the pyramid connection:

http://anth507.tripod.com/pyramids.htm
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Post by _skippy the dead »

Interesting article, Beastie.

To me, it just means that the aliens came back and showed another group of folks how to build 'em. (insert sarcastic eye roll here)
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Post by _John Larsen »

There are only so many ways to do things. It is likely that any two cultures, when compared to each other, will align with many similarities out of circumstance other than contact.
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Re: What do Non-Lds archeologists and anthropologist think?

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charity wrote:The link below is about two exhibits being shown simultaneously in Mexico and Egypt comparing Egyptian and Olmec artifacts. I am not making any claims. I just think it is intersting.

Are you linking this on your Meso-American website, beastie?

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2008/883/he1.htm


Your thread title seems to make the implicit claim that the two cultures are linked other than superficially.

Non-LDS archaeologists and anthropologists apparently think that there are interesting similarities, without positing cultural dependence.

Since you're not making any claims, I won't question you as to how one might show that the Olmec people are related to or representative of any Book of Mormon peoples.

Now, that would be a claim.

CKS
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charity wrote:
John Larsen wrote:And how does this help Mormonism? Lehi was a Jew. I see no claim anywhere in the Book of Mormon that Egyptian religion was practiced in America.

John


If I were to make any claims at all it would be to argue for diffusionism. And no, I am not talking about the 100 monkeys, idea.
Are there 100 members of FARMS?
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Boaz & Lidia wrote:
charity wrote:
John Larsen wrote:And how does this help Mormonism? Lehi was a Jew. I see no claim anywhere in the Book of Mormon that Egyptian religion was practiced in America.

John


If I were to make any claims at all it would be to argue for diffusionism. And no, I am not talking about the 100 monkeys, idea.
Are there 100 members of FARMS?


I wasn't going to ever respond to any of your posts and legitimize your presence of non-stop ugliness. But this remark here shows you are very ignorant of any anthropological thought as to be laughable.

But what really spurred me to respond to you, was your post in the very poignant thread started by Hypatia. It was so unfeeling and brutal that you ought to be slapped down, metaphorically. I didn't do it there because I didn't want to cause any more notice for your outrageous post. How you can look at person who has suffered two devastating tragedies in her life and call her a troll is beyond me. And to try to add to her pain by misrepresenting LDS theology is criminal.

I think this is a good example to some skeptics on this message board that when the spirit leaves someone, evil often fills the void. Your desire to hurt a grieving person is evil. I hope your wife is ashamed that you have done so in her name.
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Post by _Boaz & Lidia »

Daniel the Peterson has already told us all that Non-Lds archaeologists and anthropologist think that Book of Mormon research is a complete joke.
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