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I just posted this on MADD as well, but I was interested to see how some of you would also answer this:

So I just read several articles claiming that a lot of Doritos have been found to have (traces) of alcohol in them and that (some) Muslims are throwing a big fit over it because they aren't supposed to ingest alcohol either. For example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=517479&in_page_id=1770

Now, having the knowledge that if you eat Doritos, you are actually ingesting alcohol (and no it hasn't all been cooked out, it is still present in real form)...I am curious how many of you are going to stop eating them for fear of breaking the Word of Wisdom? Will you join in with the Muslims in screaming at the company for tricking you into breaking your religious beliefs? Should there be some kind of major class action lawsuit?

For those of you who will argue that it doesn't matter, and it's OK to eat them because there's so little amount of alcohol that you can't get drunk, then where do you draw the line? Why can't you have a single beer as long as you don't get drunk, etc. How much are you allowed to have in you or to ingest without breaking the word of wisdom? Obviously some of you will argue that alcohol is ok for medical purposes (cough medicine, etc), but Doritos aren't medicine, so how will you justify that? I am sincerely curious. How much is too much, and how much is ok? :) I'd also like the non-Mormons' comments on this matter even though obviously it's from a different perspective. :)

For the record, the new knowledge certainly won't affect how often I eat Doritos. I just thought it would be an interesting discussion and that many of you would be interested in hearing this.

The word of wisdom is not confusing to Mormons.

Most TBMs are practical with their beliefs. Sure, they make claims like one beer will keep you out of the CK, or one cup of coffee may not harm you physically, but it will destroy you spiritually. At the same time, they eat the equivalent of several cups of coffee worth of caffiene, plus tons of sugar on top of it, in all the chocolate that they eat. With all the bags of Doritos that get served at ward functions, they've served the equivalent of several cans of beer at the church. But most of the sane LDS will rationalize away Doritos as it is not an alcoholic drink, alcohol is simply a small ingredient and therefore it's not a big deal. The small percentage of Nazi Mormons will join the muslims in boycotting Doritos and protesting, and their kids will sneak off with their friends to buy Doritos and after eating a bag, think they're drunk. And then we'll have the apologists claim that alcohol was never against the Word of Wisdom (the same way caffeine is not against the word of wisdom there's something specific in coffee and tea that's bad, but Pepsi and coke are OK). The apologists might something like alcohol is not against the WoW, just beer, wine and liquor.

If I recall correctly, there are trace amounts of alcohol in fruits which are not against the Word of Wisdom.

By the way, is mercury against the Word of Wisdom? There is often trace amounts in fish even when the levels aren't dangerous.

Nothing is against the WoW unless the current Prophet says so. There is so much inconsistency about it, including why certain healthy foods are forbidden (eg, tea, red wine, coffee), that the only logical way to justify it is to say it is just one of those commandments "we" have to obey by faith.

(in my best TBM voice...)

Hi,
Does Some kinds of flavor of ice cream also has trace amounts of alcohol in it, since some kinds of ice cream also contains vanilla extract?

Lol that's funny. What a bunch of diers!!! Uh oh, I should get some sleep, I am becoming sadistic.

BishopRic wrote:Nothing is against the WoW unless the current Prophet says so.

This is funny because it's true. If Monson's first announcement as the new prophet is that Chocolate is now a banned substance because it has caffeine and it's unhealthy, I think many TBM women would weep, but ultimately they would go through their pantry and toss out their unopened boxes of brownie mix in obedience to the prophet. It's sad but true.

SatanWasSetUp wrote:At the same time, they eat the equivalent of several cups of coffee worth of caffiene ... in all the chocolate that they eat.

Actually, the Chocolate thing is a common misconception. There isn't any caffeine in chocolate (not naturally, and still very rarely even when it does exist intentionally), though the chemical in there (theobromine) is another Xanthine similar to Caffeine. Here's some differences between the Xanthine in Chocolate (theobromine) and the Xanthine in other drinks (caffeine):

THEOBRIMINE:
gentle
mild effect
very slow onset
long lasting
50% in bloodstream after 6 to 10 hrs
increases feeling of well being
mild antidepressant
gentle, smooth, sensual stimulation
stimulates cardiovascular system
stimulates muscular system
mild effect on central nervous system
almost no one is allergic
not addictive
no withdrawal symptoms
mild diuretic
stimulates the the kidneys

CAFFEINE:
intense
strong effect
fast acting
rapid dissipation
50% in bloodstream after 2 to 5 hrs
increases alertness
increases emotional stress
jagged, nervous stimulation
stimulates cardiovascular system
stimulates respiratory system
strong effect on central nervous system
many people allergic
physically addictive
many proven withdrawal symptoms
extreme diuretic
requires large intake of fluids to balance the diuretic effect

They are not the same thing at all. Just an FYI to those who always use chocolate to argue the Caffeine route.

You just had to post this. Now all bags of Doritos have been pulled from the shelves on the BYU campus and banned from off-campus approved housing. Stores in the Provo area have until April 14th to comply with the voluntary removal of Doritos or they will be off limits to all students, faculty and adjunct personnel.