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A friend of a friend was shot in the back not long ago. After some extremely difficult time, he was taken by ambulance to the neighboring town's hospital (rural America doesn't always have hospitals). There he had to be resurrected four times, as he medically died four times. As he is young and healthy, he lives today. But that's not what this thread is about.

While "dead", he reports that he saw his grandfather. How can this be? He is not a Mormon, nor is his grandfather. I was under the impression that only Mormons would get to see and be with their families after death. Yet this young man saw his dead grandfather!

I didn't point out this incongruity, when my Sweet Pickle was updating me on this young man's progress.

I think the LDS answer would be that we have not yet been consigned our kingdoms as we haven't had the second coming and thus the judgement yet, and they are in spirit prison together. I bet that person has an important purpose in life.

Don't you mean Resuscitated?

I saw all sorts of weird things last night when I was asleep, but I don't think anyone would need to rely on metaphysics to explain it.

harmony wrote:A friend of a friend was shot in the back not long ago. After some extremely difficult time, he was taken by ambulance to the neighboring town's hospital (rural America doesn't always have hospitals). There he had to be resurrected four times, as he medically died four times. As he is young and healthy, he lives today. But that's not what this thread is about.

While "dead", he reports that he saw his grandfather. How can this be? He is not a Mormon, nor is his grandfather. I was under the impression that only Mormons would get to see and be with their families after death. Yet this young man saw his dead grandfather!

I didn't point out this incongruity, when my Sweet Pickle was updating me on this young man's progress.

I'm about 99% certain that there is nothing in LDS doctrine that states that only "Mormons would get to see and be with their families after death." Where do you get that from? It teaches that sealed families can all be in the same "kingdom", but it never says that unfaithful people will be forever separated from their former loved ones. My mom and brothers always joke about coming to visit me in hell. I guess I might have trouble getting past the "sentinels" to go visit them, but they can come see me anytime they want. At least that's how I understood it. And besides, we don't get assigned "kingdoms" until our final judgment. When we die, it's my understanding that we all go to the spirit world.

I'm not even a church-going LDS and I know that.

Wheat wrote:I'm about 99% certain that there is nothing in LDS doctrine that states that only "Mormons would get to see and be with their families after death." Where do you get that from?

It comes from the commercial. "Families can be together forever", with the much-later added caveat of the "sealing", of course. Yet this nonmember young man and his nonmember grandfather were in the same place (or at least that's what he said).

And where does it say we get to be with our loved ones until we're judged and then we'll meekly toddle off to our assigned kingdoms? I've never heard that before. Is there some scriptural reference that supports that? Seems to me like some people, at least, are judged already (Peter, James, John, Elijah, etc. Anyone who's returned to earth.)

One cannot be resurrected multiple times as resurrection implies one can no longer die in LDS doctrine.

Good god woman.

You have shown the nine year old TBM in yourself.

Duh?

"I was told a wive's tale that um.. blah blah blah...."

I'd suppose you believe all of the Dunn stories also?