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Is this the latest workaround for the fact there is nor ever has been such a thing as a Laminite?
A guy over on the MAADB today is saying that the term Lamanite is "purely a political designation. Therefore DNA is completely meaningless to any subject pertaining to the Book of Mormon. Sounds like the ultumate workaround to deal with the fact that there is not nor ever has been any such thing as a lamaniteexcept in Joe Smiths imagination.

This definition as to what the term Nephite and Lamanite comes from the Book of Mormon itself.

Since when is the curse of a dark skin a political designation?

The Nehor wrote:This definition as to what the term Nephite and Lamanite comes from the Book of Mormon itself.

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harmony wrote:Since when is the curse of a dark skin a political designation?

Nowhere. Read up on the Amlicites, Amalekites, Amulonites, and Zoramites. They became Lamanites yet there is no mention of them changing skin tone. There's no mention of any change in the Ammonite's skin tone either yet they switched from being Lamanites to Nephites.

Who Knows wrote:

The Nehor wrote:This definition as to what the term Nephite and Lamanite comes from the Book of Mormon itself.

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How am I smarter?

I Nephi repeatedly has Nephi saying the phrase, "the seed of my brethren." Nowhere does he say "the political designation of my brethren."

Dr. Shades wrote:I Nephi repeatedly has Nephi saying the phrase, "the seed of my brethren." Nowhere does he say "the political designation of my brethren."

This is true, but Nephi was in the first generation where likely no mixing had occurred outside the initial break. Jacob refers to the Lamanites as 'brethren' but nothing else. The later designation comes from Mormon who did define it as a political designation and said that from now on that was how he would use the terms. Moroni does not redefine the term so it is assumed he used the same meaning as his father.

The Nehor wrote:This is true, but Nephi was in the first generation where likely no mixing had occurred outside the initial break. Jacob refers to the Lamanites as 'brethren' but nothing else. The later designation comes from Mormon who did define it as a political designation and said that from now on that was how he would use the terms. Moroni does not redefine the term so it is assumed he used the same meaning as his father.

Either way, there isn't any Nephite or Lamanite DNA to be found anywhere. So the political designations made by Moroni don't have any impact on the Lamanite/DNA question, since according to the Book of Mormon they're all descendants of Lehi, be they Amulonites, Amlicites, Josephites, Jacobites, Nephites, Lamanites, King-Men, Gadianton Robbers, or what-have-you.

Dr. Shades wrote:

The Nehor wrote:This is true, but Nephi was in the first generation where likely no mixing had occurred outside the initial break. Jacob refers to the Lamanites as 'brethren' but nothing else. The later designation comes from Mormon who did define it as a political designation and said that from now on that was how he would use the terms. Moroni does not redefine the term so it is assumed he used the same meaning as his father.

Either way, there isn't any Nephite or Lamanite DNA to be found anywhere. So the political designations made by Moroni don't have any impact on the Lamanite/DNA question, since according to the Book of Mormon they're all descendants of Lehi, be they Amulonites, Amlicites, Josephites, Jacobites, Nephites, Lamanites, King-Men, Gadianton Robbers, or what-have-you.

I agree that this doesn't impact the DNA question much. It does mean that both groups were not genetically pure. They were mutts......just like virtually every other population.

I was just coming down in support of the terms being political designations.