Why I stayed in so long

Post by **_Mercury** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:22 am

Ill confess, my fascination with the Occult kept me in Mormonism. My present Fraternal obligations speaks for itself. Ever since my 16th year I have tied Joe, the temple, Masonry and wishywashy agnosticism into a narrative that has heled me through the years. It seems the Jupiter Talisman sparked off a fever of fascination with a 15th century Grimoire, Key of Solomon (Clavicula Salomoni).

On my mission I noticed a pushback against such views. Although I never practiced the ceremonies, I did wear a Jupiter Talisman and crafted my own. When questioned, I stated that Joseph Smith himself wore the charm and would from time to time silence uppity missionaries having fun at my expense.

Truth be told, the first Mormon History book I bought was from Quinn.

Post by **_Scottie** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:10 am

I have heard of the Jupiter Talisman, but I don't know what it is. Could you explain for us ignernt folk?

Post by **_Mercury** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:14 am

Scottie wrote:I have heard of the Jupiter Talisman, but I don't know what it is. Could you explain for us ignernt folk?

It is a magic charm worn about the neck usually:

http://www.gangleri.nl/articles/35/angel-magic

Post by **_Scottie** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:17 am

Did the one you made have those same markings, or did you make your own?

Post by **_Mercury** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:19 am

Scottie wrote:Did the one you made have those same markings, or did you make your own?

Same one Joe wore

Post by **_sunstoned** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:35 am

In addition to the Jupiter talisman, Joseph Smith also had several peep stones and a family ceremonial dagger. Magic was very much part of 19th century frontier life, and this magic world view spawned the stories that latter became the foundational stories of the Mormon faith.

Post by **_Pokatator** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:37 am

For $15 and $2.50 S&H you can have your own replica.

Jupiter Talisman on eBay

I don't know how to split a long address like this one. Just go to ebay and search "Jupiter Talisman" it's the first item.

[Mod Scottie note: Fixed URL]

Post by **_Mercury** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:38 am

sunstoned wrote:Magic was very much part of 19th century frontier life...

How widespread was folk magic in the early 1800's in your estimation?

Post by **_Mercury** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:41 am

Pokatator wrote:For $15 and $2.50 S&H you can have your own replica.

Jupiter Talisman on eBay

I don't know how to split a long address like this one. Just go to ebay and search "Jupiter Talisman" it's the first item.

Look what else is going for sale on Ebay:

Post by **_Moniker** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:27 am

You know I've wondered how much the "magical" appeals to some in LDS. They talk about the occult with tsk tsks and Tsuzuki gets picked on a wee bit (it seems by a few) yet, the entire religion just strikes me as being very "magical". I know Nephi and his wife said that they were drawn to it for that reason.