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The freedom to challenge others beliefs

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:21 pm
by _Mercury
The FSM appeared to me last night in a dream and told me I was chosen to write a post here in the terrestrial forum concerning the great need for the ability to oppose anothers opinion no matter how faith-based it is. If the board is about finding the truth then one must realize that the truth hurts sometimes. I am the first one to say that not all truths are taken into consideration and the existence of actual debate is at times "debatable".

If I wanted to be able to agree with everyone on the board i'd be at RFM.

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:24 pm
by _bcspace
The FSM appeared to me last night in a dream and told me I was chosen to write a post here in the terrestrial forum concerning the great need for the ability to oppose anothers opinion no matter how faith-based it is.


Don't you mean all faith-based opinions except those like your own?

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:45 pm
by _Infymus
Is this a faith based thread? Do we have to start another thread in order to object to your freedom to challenge others beliefs?

Or should we all just sit down and bare our testimonies?

Re: The freedom to challenge others beliefs

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:55 pm
by _Moniker
Mercury wrote:The FSM appeared to me last night in a dream and told me I was chosen to write a post here in the terrestrial forum concerning the great need for the ability to oppose anothers opinion no matter how faith-based it is. If the board is about finding the truth then one must realize that the truth hurts sometimes. I am the first one to say that not all truths are taken into consideration and the existence of actual debate is at times "debatable".

If I wanted to be able to agree with everyone on the board I'd be at RFM.


Do you think I could discuss the ramifications of a certain belief without someone telling me repeatedly the belief is false? Especially if I don't hold that belief? Can I talk about Republicans and their platform and not be a Republican? Can I discuss the ramifications of the platform of the Republican Party? Can I do this without someone repeatedly coming into the thread and telling me not to believe in the Republican platform -- totally ignoring that I am not a member of that party? I would hope so!

Oppose my opinion on the ramifications of the concept, sure. But, why oppose the belief if it's not held by anyone?

There was a thread lately where almost all the participants were atheists/agnostics and one person continually talked about the beliefs being false. No one in the discussion held the beliefs -- we were discussing the ramifications of the belief. That was maddening!

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:05 pm
by _Imwashingmypirate
Hey... this website has ".com" at the end, does that mean we have the same rights of freedom and liberty as you Americans???? ;)

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:34 pm
by _Scottie
Good lord.

This is ONLY in the CK and ONLY if a poster wants to start with some assumptions.

It's really NOT that hard of a concept!!

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:41 pm
by _dartagnan
Good lord.

This is ONLY in the CK and ONLY if a poster wants to start with some assumptions.

It's really NOT that hard of a concept!!


And that is why I get a kick out of this. Most people never venture on over to the CK anyway, yet they're complaining about their freedom of speech being hindered. Give me a break.

And when Bokovoy and I had our one on one debate in the CK, why didn't anyone have a conniption fit then? No one else was allowed to participate in that thread either.

And the result was?

Contrary to the theories thrown about here, Bokovoy and I were able to have a cordial and very productive exchange. It is probably one of the best discussions that took place in the year 2007.

It seems that those whining about this are the same kinds of folks at MAD. They want to create the forum in their own image. They don't want to take any measures that might welcome or attract other members from the LDS faith. They like things the way they are now. They like being able to gang bang the two or three LDS who do post regularly here.

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:18 pm
by _karl61
dartagnan wrote:
Good lord.

This is ONLY in the CK and ONLY if a poster wants to start with some assumptions.

It's really NOT that hard of a concept!!


And that is why I get a kick out of this. Most people never venture on over to the CK anyway, yet they're complaining about their freedom of speech being hindered. Give me a break.

And when Bokovoy and I had our one on one debate in the CK, why didn't anyone have a conniption fit then? No one else was allowed to participate in that thread either.

And the result was?

Contrary to the theories thrown about here, Bokovoy and I were able to have a cordial and very productive exchange. It is probably one of the best discussions that took place in the year 2007.
It seems that those whining about this are the same kinds of folks at MAD. They want to create the forum in their own image. They don't want to take any measures that might welcome or attract other members from the LDS faith. They like things the way they are now. They like being able to gang bang the two or three LDS who do post regularly here.


I disagree: the best ones were when DCP appears and Mister Scratch goes after him like a mountain lion on a squirrel

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:47 am
by _Dr. Shades
[MODERATOR NOTE: The new rule on flagging a thread as "faith-based" is hereby overturned.

Now back to your regularly-scheduled programming.]