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The bald arrogance of Mormonism
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:51 am
by _Mercury
Mormons will tell you that Mormonism has been practiced since Adam and Eve though abbreviated through parts of history due to supposed apostasies. Mormonism steals the history of many world religions and inserts itself in the place of early christianity, judaism and bits and pieces of other religions. It seemed as if when I was still in the church that Mormonism was eternal. No evidence came to mind aside from the oft spoken of "corrupted form" of ceremony.belief/scripture/etc.
TBM Mormons honestly believe that their 80-90 year old religion (think about it) has been practiced on and off for millenia. Carried even further they believe it has been practiced throughout time and on a near infinite number of worlds.
Mormonism is arrogance and smugness personified.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:17 am
by _Gazelam
To quote a line from Ghostbusters...
"You never studied..."
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:42 am
by _Mercury
Gazelam wrote:To quote a line from Ghostbusters...
"You never studied..."
I studied Gaz but most importantly I listened. And what I heard did not sit well. Language is communication and I find the behavior of a human being speaks volumes of their character. Scripture and manufactured history is not substance, its window dressing, kind of like Pyongyang in North Korea.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:20 am
by _Sethbag
Gazelam wrote:To quote a line from Ghostbusters...
"You never studied..."
And you studied mythology? And took it as fact? Congratulations! You're now a bona fide whizkid at Mormon Mythology. Is that like being a Grandmaster Trekkie? Or knowing every major baseball's player's stats since their rookie year?
Gaz, human beings have lived on this Earth for into the hundreds of thousands of years, and Mormonism has been practiced on it for 178 years in various forms. If you would study the human context, the Earth's natural history, and the history of mankind as we know it so far, you would see that Mormonism is so brief and insignificant that it might as well be a single drop in the ocean of this Earth's history. It's so obviously manmade in the last two centuries that it's almost mind-boggling, in retrospect, how people fail to see this. It's as obviously manmade as Scientology, and every other belief system out there.
You think, Gaz, that Mormonism is so special, but that's just because it's your chosen mythology. In fact, in the abstract, there's hardly anything new here at all. People have been inventing religions, and convincing people to believe in them, for tens of thousands of years, and Mormonism is just one more (yawn) made up religion, out of thousands that there have been.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:24 am
by _Mercury
Sethbag wrote:Gazelam wrote:To quote a line from Ghostbusters...
"You never studied..."
And you studied mythology? And took it as fact? Congratulations! You're now a bona fide whizkid at Mormon Mythology. Is that like being a Grandmaster Trekkie? Or knowing every major baseball's player's stats since their rookie year?
a good friend of mine is trying to get into teaching for CES. Every time he does that I look at his kids and wonder if they will be malnourished if daddy quits walmart and goes to school full time.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:46 pm
by _Jason Bourne
I am not sure you can blame Mormons for believing what their religion teaches. It is an interesting study to see the ideas ( or revelations if one believes) that Joseph Smith introduced over his career. What started as a simple restoration movement grew to a doctrine that, as you noted, encompasses at least the biblical history of mankind. A gospel that was not just had recently or even from Christ, but actually from the dawn of that fall of mankind. Whether one believes it or not it is an interesting dynamic in religious thought and one that was really quite innovative.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:07 pm
by _harmony
Jason Bourne wrote:I am not sure you can blame Mormons for believing what their religion teaches. It is an interesting study to see the ideas ( or revelations if one believes) that Joseph Smith introduced over his career. What started as a simple restoration movement grew to a doctrine that, as you noted, encompasses at least the biblical history of mankind. A gospel that was not just had recently or even from Christ, but actually from the dawn of that fall of mankind. Whether one believes it or not it is an interesting dynamic in religious thought and one that was really quite innovative.
Mormonism is just one more step in a long line of steps from Christianity, which stemmed from tribe of Judah. I'm sure there are roots of that too. More tribal myths that were passed down through the centuries taking on the aura of truth, one by one, until it gets to us. That would be an interesting family tree to trace. Has anyone seen a representation of that on the net somewhere?
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:27 pm
by _bcspace
To quote a line from Ghostbusters...
"You never studied..."
Don't cross the streams and Merc, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!
All right! This chick is TOAST!