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There's not a damn Mormon on here worth engaging with...
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:18 am
by _Tal Bachman
You are about to read my most unbecoming post ever (and that's really saying something :P).
There doesn't seem to be one damn Mormon on here worth engaging with seriously about the church.
Nehor seems like a nice enough guy - but that's probably because he doesn't seem to take the church all that seriously. Moksha (edit: this should be Harmony) likes to imagine she's a Mormon even though she rejects Mormonism's most fundamental authority claims. BCSpace sounds like a total pothead, spontaneously inventing pure nonsense and believing it as though it were a collection of the most profound insights ever.
Coggins sounds like one of those older inactive guys who just sits around reading church books, fancying himself a real expert on everything, a guy who's gotten just to that point where Mormonism seems to make sense, but hasn't taken that next step of analysis, which would reveal that it makes no sense at all. Schryver kind of reminds me of myself as a Mormon, though I'm sure he would snort at that. He says many of the same sorts of things I used to.
For reasons of charity, Wade's comments probably shouldn't even be responded to, ever. I've never seen Ray A produce one original, thought-provoking comment on Mormonism, ever. Charity - 'nuff said.
Where are the Mormons you can have a rational conversation with about Mormonism?
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:27 am
by _Sethbag
I think you can have a pretty rational conversation with Jason Bourne. And Doctor Stuess. And Cinepro. And, I think, Asbestosman. Note that each of these people I think would admit to disbelieving quite a few things that most chapel Mormons would claim is ironclad truth.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:45 am
by _Boaz & Lidia
Sethbag wrote:I think you can have a pretty rational conversation with Jason Bourne. And Doctor Stuess. And Cinepro. And, I think, Asbestosman. Note that each of these people I think would admit to disbelieving quite a few things that most chapel Mormons would claim is ironclad truth.
Jason --> NOM
Doc Stuess --> Inactive Jack NOM
Cinepro--> active disbelieving social mo'
Asbestosman --> wet exmo
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:47 am
by _Sethbag
I missed the memo where "wet exmo" was defined. Did Abman actually give it up?
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:51 am
by _Boaz & Lidia
Sethbag wrote:I missed the memo where "wet exmo" was defined. Did Abman actually give it up?
Remember the lame term of dry Mormon? This is going the other way, the correct way...
Hand abestosman a towel and viola, he be exmo.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:02 pm
by _antishock8
Maaaaaaaan, there ain't a damn thing about Mormonism that makes sense. Is it any surprise that anyone who adheres to it post-Internet doesn't exactly seem like the most rational person on Earth? You have to contort your mind into a million little knots in order to make Mormonism sensible.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:20 pm
by _Pokatator
Tal, you're expecting a rational discussion with people in an irrational religion?
Personally, I agree with your assessment and Seth's assessment of the Mormon posters mentioned.
But don't forget the "Catholic with the Joseph Smith avatar", why me. Why is it so common to have posters that can't live the irrational standard of the Mormon church or aren't even active and yet they defend it so ardently?
Re: There's not a damn Mormon on here worth engaging with...
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:40 pm
by _the road to hana
Tal Bachman wrote:Where are the Mormons you can have a rational conversation with about Mormonism?
There's no such thing.
Re: There's not a damn Mormon on here worth engaging with...
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:21 pm
by _antishock8
the road to hana wrote:Tal Bachman wrote:Where are the Mormons you can have a rational conversation with about Mormonism?
There's no such thing.
Maaaaaaaan, there ain't a damn thing about Christianity that makes sense. Is it any surprise that anyone who adheres to it post-Internet doesn't exactly seem like the most rational person on Earth? You have to contort your mind into a million little knots in order to make Christianity sensible.
Re: There's not a damn Mormon on here worth engaging with...
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:23 pm
by _Inconceivable
Tal Bachman wrote:Where are the Mormons you can have a rational conversation with about Mormonism?
Maybe there aren't any. Otherwise they would not be Mormons for long, no?
There is a reason why I cannot connect with most so called Mormons here on the board. It was the same while I was a member:
When I was a member, for me it was all about becoming one with Christ. I took it most seriously that without charity (small c please) we are of little (or no) value to ourselves or others. I consciously engaged in studying, conversing and instructing with this concept as the heart of the matter. All of the miracles I ever witnessed countenanced this. The greatest miracles were seeing people's hearts change from troubled, turbulant and unkind to peaceable and friendly - even in myself. I knew that keeping outward commandments (and I did keep them) didn't make me a "good" person.
However, I saw very little conscious emphasis placed upon this (developing charity, becoming "born again") while a member (even though, oddly enough, the Book of Mormon is all about this). Lessons taught in church were more about guilt and fear of underachievement. There is little difference here.
Most Mormons here countenance this self righteous air of entitlement bearing little attribute of what they ought to understand.
Many self proclaimed Mormons here remind me of Bruce McConkie who reprimanded members for seeking a relationship with Christ.
I am primarilly here to figure out what I am willing to keep from this trainwreck called Mormonism.