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No, this post isn't about Tal. I mean my last relationship.

What do the Mormons do when their relationships/marriages fall apart?

Is it considered a blessing? Is it part of heavenly father's plan? Is there a conference talk floating around out there about this sort of thing? What sort of advice does the Church have in such a situation? Prayer? Fasting? Missionary work? Certainly God is credited for bringing people together, what about pulling them apart?

As a newly single mammal, I've accepted the fact that a healthy, long-term relationship is far beyond my reach. And the teachings of Professor Tom Leykis have allowed me to appreciate being unattached again.

Thinking like an atheist, the more and more girls I encounter the more and more I am convinced that love is a biological trick, and there is nothing special, let alone divine, about marriage, sex, or relationships.

Does the Church help keep families together? How so?

GoodK wrote:No, this post isn't about Tal. I mean my last relationship.

What do the Mormons do when their relationships/marriages fall apart?

Is it considered a blessing? Is it part of heavenly father's plan? Is there a conference talk floating around out there about this sort of thing? What sort of advice does the Church have in such a situation? Prayer? Fasting? Missionary work? Certainly God is credited for bringing people together, what about pulling them apart?

As a newly single mammal, I've accepted the fact that a healthy, long-term relationship is far beyond my reach. And the teachings of Professor Tom Leykis have allowed me to appreciate being unattached again.

Thinking like an atheist, the more and more girls I encounter the more and more I am convinced that love is a biological trick, and there is nothing special, let alone divine, about marriage, sex, or relationships.

Does the Church help keep families together? How so?

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I'm sorry to hear about your breakup, GoodK. I'm a single mammal, as well and understand that it is sometimes a lonely spot to be in, yet, at the same time rather freeing in a sense.

Falling in love is a chemical stew that is quite intoxicating and maddening in many ways. Being bonded long term is likewise a part of an interesting chemical stew -- oxytocin. Yet, even for those without sexual aspects of their relationship there is the possibility of a loving, tender, long term relationship that can develop. I think the divine of love is experiencing it. :)

Tom Leykis? Ha! You need to speak with Gadianton!

GoodK wrote:Does the Church help keep families together?

Yes.

How so?

By A) convincing them that they can't reach the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom without being sealed in the temple, and by B) allowing the assumption to perpetuate that it's O.K. to divorce an unbelieving spouse.

GoodK wrote:No, this post isn't about Tal. I mean my last relationship.

What do the Mormons do when their relationships/marriages fall apart?

Is it considered a blessing? Is it part of heavenly father's plan? Is there a conference talk floating around out there about this sort of thing? What sort of advice does the Church have in such a situation? Prayer? Fasting? Missionary work? Certainly God is credited for bringing people together, what about pulling them apart?

As a newly single mammal, I've accepted the fact that a healthy, long-term relationship is far beyond my reach. And the teachings of Professor Tom Leykis have allowed me to appreciate being unattached again.

Thinking like an atheist, the more and more girls I encounter the more and more I am convinced that love is a biological trick, and there is nothing special, let alone divine, about marriage, sex, or relationships.

Does the Church help keep families together? How so?

Its the eve of the end of the world. Its only second to the ultimate destructive force in the universe: a spouce who leaves the church.

Moniker wrote:
Falling in love is a chemical stew that is quite intoxicating and maddening in many ways. Being bonded long term is likewise a part of an interesting chemical stew -- oxytocin.

I just found this, because I had to look up oxytocin after reading your post..

Synthetic oxytocin is sold as medication under the trade names Pitocin and Syntocinon as well as generic oxytocin.

I wonder what such a medicine does... I'm curious to find out if it will make someone feel like they've fallen in love... and if so, how can I slip some of it into Amy's drink..

GoodK wrote:I wonder what such a medicine does... I'm curious to find out if it will make someone feel like they've fallen in love... and if so, how can I slip some of it into Amy's drink..

Uhh, GoodK, you really owe it to yourself to read this thread.

Dr. Shades wrote:

GoodK wrote:I wonder what such a medicine does... I'm curious to find out if it will make someone feel like they've fallen in love... and if so, how can I slip some of it into Amy's drink..

Uhh, GoodK, you really owe it to yourself to read this thread.

I really am at a loss here. I don't know what to say... Dr. Shades, you have finally crossed the line.

I can no longer admire you from afar...

As a newly single mammal, I've accepted the fact that a healthy, long-term relationship is far beyond my reach. And the teachings of Professor Tom Leykis have allowed me to appreciate being unattached again.

You ought to take Leykis's teachings a step further and get counseling. You may need to determine whether a long-term relationship is what you really want - and further, get a grasp on what you want. People have a strange way of getting what they want without knowing it, many times. It's very possible that people who are always complaining about being single and feeling sorry for themselves really want to be single, and sub-consciously sabatoge their own relationship efforts (well, you did say you knew it wouldn't last..). Some people take to relationships like fish to water, others really struggle, and it's across the board as far as looks and money are concerned.

Leykis teaches well on playing the odds of the game safe. If you take his advice on things, you'll have a good life, and you should appreciate that. But if you get greedy, you might take more chances. Leykis, recall, doesn't teach that a long-term relationship is bad, but just unlikely to pay off. He's also honest about what it takes to make a marriage works and admits he doesn't have it, nor do most people. Of course, he tried it 4 times, not to mention he took a huge risk by going into radio. I think he's consistent though and generally persuades his students against radio and TV careers.

Gadianton wrote:You ought to take Leykis's teachings a step further and get counseling.

Interesting way to begin a post.

Gadianton wrote:Leykis, recall, doesn't teach that a long-term relationship is bad, but just unlikely to pay off.

Tom says that no one under 25 should be in a serious relationship. But now that I think about it, I think he actually says it is stupid. Not bad.

GoodK wrote:

Gadianton wrote:You ought to take Leykis's teachings a step further and get counseling.

Interesting way to begin a post.

Gadianton wrote:Leykis, recall, doesn't teach that a long-term relationship is bad, but just unlikely to pay off.

Tom says that no one under 25 should be in a serious relationship. But now that I think about it, I think he actually says it is stupid. Not bad.

I agree that people under 25 shouldn't concern themselves with a serious relationship. I mean if it happens, it happens, but don't fret if you're not in holy matrimony 'cause you're 22! You are 22, aren't you? Or 23?

Enjoy being a bachelor. :)