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Pahoran over at MAD board says that Ann Eliza Webb's book has been thoroughly debunked as a piece of garbage. I've read the book, and have heard the same accusations from other sources.

So -- do you guys know? Is her book a bunch of garbage?

And didn't she mysteriously disappear, and has no known date of death?

Wasn't she afraid she was going to be killed?

Please help me out here...

I've read the book. Please note this is not a rational analysis of the book either.

I thought the writer had a huge victim and a huge princess complex. Everything was so dramatic and soooo traumatizing for her yet she seems like she expected to be treated like something of an aristocrat in Utah. I also find it interesting that despite her declaring how Mormon she was there is no mention of scripture reading, prayers, or any kind of home religious life. Everything focussed on Sunday meetings. At first I suspected there was a lack of emphasis on such things and I was guilty of presentism. Then I read the Journal of Discourses and couldn't believe that anymore.

The Nehor wrote:Then I read the Journal of Discourses and couldn't believe that anymore.

Huh? explain.

Mercury wrote:

The Nehor wrote:Then I read the Journal of Discourses and couldn't believe that anymore.

Huh? explain.

In many of the Discourses the Leaders told the Saints to study and learn scripture and (especially) to pray.

The Nehor wrote:

Mercury wrote:

The Nehor wrote:Then I read the Journal of Discourses and couldn't believe that anymore.

Huh? explain.

In many of the Discourses the Leaders told the Saints to study and learn scripture and (especially) to pray.

so, in your opinion she wasn't religious, a good person, or reliable? And her book has been debunked?

Coca Cola wrote:

The Nehor wrote:

Mercury wrote:

The Nehor wrote:Then I read the Journal of Discourses and couldn't believe that anymore.

Huh? explain.

In many of the Discourses the Leaders told the Saints to study and learn scripture and (especially) to pray.

so, in your opinion she wasn't religious, a good person, or reliable? And her book has been debunked?

Hi, welcome to the board. I can't answer any of your questions with authority, but I read the book and enjoyed it, actually. It was written serially for a magazine and as such it was very sensational (she knew how to write for her audience) and highly entertaining, probaby exaggerated a fair amount, but that doesn't mean it was untruthful. In fact, if were debunkable then we might expect the Defenders to actually debunk it right here and now instead of attacking the author's character, but what more can we expect?

Mercury wrote:

Whaaaaaa?

No comprendo.

Lucretia MacEvil wrote:

Hi, welcome to the board. I can't answer any of your questions with authority, but I read the book and enjoyed it, actually. It was written serially for a magazine and as such it was very sensational (she knew how to write for her audience) and highly entertaining, probaby exaggerated a fair amount, but that doesn't mean it was untruthful. In fact, if were debunkable then we might expect the Defenders to actually debunk it right here and now instead of attacking the author's character, but what more can we expect?

Thanks. You're right. Pahoran claimed it was totally debunked, yet I've heard the other things she described from many other sources, and can readily believe in the unhappiness her mother and many other Mormon women would experience in polygamy.

Perhaps that debunking was sort of like a FARMS review. The evidence in this case was that the Journal of Discourses told the members to pray and she didn't mention it. It really doesn't address anything specifically but it helps fill the page and looks like a rebuttal.