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Possible consideration of placing FLDS children in LDS homes
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:37 am
by _msnobody
I have been informed that the CPS (Child Protection Services) in Texas is considering placing the FLDS children in Mormon homes. PLEASE send emails or phone calls to the following people asking them NOT to do this.
EMAIL ADDRESSES:
gwen.carter@dfps.state.Texas.us
darrell.azar@dfps.state.Texas.us
marissa.gonzales@dfps.state.Texas.us
shari.puliiam@dfps.state.Texas.us
txcasa@texascasa.org
cgauwain@suddenlinkmail.com
Re: Possible consideration of placing FLDS children in LDS h
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:41 am
by _the road to hana
Just out of curiosity, why are you opposed to it?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:06 am
by _msnobody
Do you even need to ask?
I feel it would be not be a wise choice to expose them to yet another view of Joseph Smith or of polygamy. Joseph Smith so-called revelation he claims to have recieved from God commanding polygamy remains in the Mormon scriptures as current doctrine. Spiritual polygamy is still practiced by the church i.e. The Everlasting Covenant.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:58 am
by _Imapiratewasher
Hmm... Well, one might wish to do this, but why should we? Should you not back your case and put forth an argument in order to persuade posters to agree with you? I don't think we have that problem here anyway as there aren't any FLDSers. Wouldn't it be better that a Child be with LDS than a non religious family, or their own family for that matter?
Pirate.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:11 am
by _truth dancer
OMG...
Not good. So, not good.
How did you find out that this was a possibility? And the emails?
Thanks for the information.
~dancer~
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:38 am
by _Roger Morrison
"Out of the fire, into the frying-pan." Seemed like a reasonable idea at first, but thanks for pointing out, "Tis simply another more varnished way of indoctrinatination to LDS errancy. Albeit sweeter coated." Yer right again TD! :-)
Pirate, being in a "religious-home" is no more assuring of a "good-home" than not. Morals, integrity, honour, honesty, generousity and kindness are not the exclusive purview of "religious folks." Warm regards, Roger
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:40 am
by _the road to hana
msnobody wrote:Do you even need to ask?
I feel it would be not be a wise choice to expose them to yet another view of Joseph Smith or of polygamy. Joseph Smith so-called revelation he claims to have recieved from God commanding polygamy remains in the Mormon scriptures as current doctrine. Spiritual polygamy is still practiced by the church I.e. The Everlasting Covenant.
I guess it really depends on the LDS family involved, but I'd be inclined to side on the view that placing them in LDS homes is less traumatic in the long run than placing them in non-LDS ones. At least LDS homes can provide some context, and have some understanding. There will be more things familiar to the children.
Obviously, it depends on the family. But I have to believe there are many loving LDS homes out there that could take FLDS children as temporary foster children and do a commendable job keeping those children in loving, safe and stable homes until they are ultimately returned to their parents.
It's not like there's a ready supply of foster FLDS homes out there.
It's going to be a challenging process regardless. I don't envy the states' job in finding suitable homes for these children, and I can only hope it turns out well.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:03 pm
by _quaker
Is an LDS home is unsuitable because of the religion practiced?
Had there been no abuse above what is in a normal US home, would the CPS still have been justified in taking the children away because their parents were FLDS?
Fortunately most of the US is run according to the law and being LDS does not disqualify parents from adopting. There are some places (and people) that feel themselves above the law but I am glad they are in the minority, lest there an epidemic of ill-executed child removals from any parents who are looked on as less because of beliefs they hold.
You sound like a total jack@$$ to be honest.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:14 pm
by _Canucklehead
I certainly think that CPS should seriously think this through before placing the FLDS kids in LDS homes as a general policy. I don't see why putting them in an LDS home is going to be any less traumatic for them than any other home.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:27 pm
by _truth dancer
I think there are a lot of great LDS families but I have a sense that, if these children were placed into their homes the children would be taught that WJ isn't the prophet, it is Tomas Monson. (sigh)
The very same dynamics (albeit less intense) would exist. Follow the prophet, if your family doesn't all believe in the TRUE form of Mormonism you won't be together, you must be baptized into the TRUE Mormon church, this life is a test to see if you are going to believe in the TRUE form of Mormonism, pay your tithing, go to the temple, wear garments (shorter version), etc. etc.
I just think this is going to mess with their vulnerable, confused, innocent minds.
I like how Roger put it.. "from the fire into the frying pan." Exactly.
I think it would be healthier for these children to be placed into homes with caring parents who had no motive to convert the children into the "TRUE" church.
I would say the same thing if CPS were considering placing these children into any family who embraced a cult or religion with a strong emphasis on obeying a leader, and/or with a tendency to do missionary work to convert their family, neighbors and friends.
I would love to see these kids free of fear, and free to be children; to play, relax, dream.
~dancer~