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LDS "Church Handbook of Instructions" on Wikileaks
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:33 am
by _KimberlyAnn
Church Handbook of Instructions (1999)
As far as I know, it's not supposed to be made public, though I know quite a few folks have access to it. Also, there may be a newer version available. I do not believe updated versions are announced to the general membership--at least they weren't when I was a member.
Anyway, it's there for the reading.
Kimberly Ann
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:39 am
by _Canucklehead
That site is going to create a lot of powerful enemies.
In other words, it's great.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:48 am
by _skippy the dead
I think that the latest is 2006 - that's the one I'd like to see. There are some changes with respect to grounds for church discipline.
And yeah, the church leaders aren't going to be happy about that one.
Re: LDS "Church Handbook of Instructions" on Wikil
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:52 am
by _the road to hana
KimberlyAnn wrote:Church Handbook of Instructions (1999)As far as I know, it's not supposed to be made public, though I know quite a few folks have access to it. Also, there may be a newer version available. I do not believe updated versions are announced to the general membership--at least they weren't when I was a member.
Anyway, it's there for the reading.
Kimberly Ann
There's definitely a newer version available, but I don't think it's online.
This one has been online several times in the past, but the church always manages to make it disappear. Take notes while you can.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:00 am
by _Mercury
Oh f**k yeah. HERE COME THE LAWYERS!!!
Re: LDS "Church Handbook of Instructions" on Wikil
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:02 am
by _KimberlyAnn
the road to hana wrote:KimberlyAnn wrote:Church Handbook of Instructions (1999)As far as I know, it's not supposed to be made public, though I know quite a few folks have access to it. Also, there may be a newer version available. I do not believe updated versions are announced to the general membership--at least they weren't when I was a member.
Anyway, it's there for the reading.
Kimberly Ann
There's definitely a newer version available, but I don't think it's online.
This one has been online several times in the past, but the church always manages to make it disappear. Take notes while you can.
I don't think they're going to make it disappear from Wikileaks!
The Church of Scientology is threatening Wikileaks due to their publishing of formerly unreleased Scientology manuals. Wikileaks isn't backing down at all. I think, at least for now, they're fairly untouchable.
Here's what Wikileaks has to say about the Scientology threats:
WIKILEAKS PRESS RELEASE
Monday April 7, 2008
The Scientology cult, of which Hollywood actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta are the most familiar public followers, has threatened transparency group Wikileaks, demanding that it remove "unpublished, copyrighted" Scientology documents. The Scientology documents, which were released by Wikileaks last month, are restricted from the public and low ranking cult members.
The March 27 letter, from the cult's Los Angeles lawyers, Moxon & Kobrin also asked, in an apparent attempt to trace the source of the materials, that Wikileaks preserve any related records, "..not limited to, logs, data entry sheets, applications -- electronic or otherwise, registrations forms, billings statements or invoices, computer print-outs, disks, hard drives, etc.". However, the Wikileaks site, by design, keeps no logs of its submissions, or even of its readers.
The cult's lawyers presented Wikileaks with a list of copyright registrations for its secret "religious technology" made with the United States Copyright Office and some examples of international court cases related to previous Scientology legal attacks on publishers. These examples reveal part of a long history of reported Scientology abuse of the legal system and are clearly aimed at putting pressure on Wikileaks to remove the content.
The documents, according to the legal letter, are owned by a Scientology holding company, the Religious Technology Center (RTC), which claims ownership of the "confidential Advanced Technology of the Scientology religion" — the secret "bibles" of the cult.
The content, consisting of typed as well as hand-written pages by the cult founder, the late science fiction writer and con-man L. Ron Hubbard, describes Old Testament "levels" I-VIII as well as related "NOTs" and other aspects of cult dogma and operations. The public is usually introduced to the cult through its "free stess test" stalls, L. Ron Hubbard's book 1950's pseudo-science book "Dianetics", or fronts such as Narconon, Criminon and the Citizens Commission on Human Rights. Cult members are normally thoroughly indoctrinated before they are introduced to higher level Scientology "bibles", such as "OT-III", which describe all human problems as having being originated by the evil galactic overlord, Xenu, some 75 million years ago. While parts of the material have appeared previously, if briefly due to legal action, others parts appear to be original to the Wikileaks release.
After reviewing documentation of Scientology's endless assaults on journalists from Time magazine and CNN, which spent over $3 million defending against just one of their suits, to investigative freelancers who have had publishers pulp their books rather than facing litigation costs, we have come to the conclusion that Scientology is not only an abusive cult, but that it aids and abets a general climate of Western media self-censorship.
If the west can not defend its cultural values of free speech and press freedoms against a criminal cult like Scientology, it can hardly lecture China and other state abusers of these same values. Such states are quick to proclaim their censorship regime is no mere matter of protecting cult profits, but rather of national security.
Wikileaks will not comply with legally abusive requests from Scientology any more than Wikileaks has complied with similar demands from Swiss banks, London Banks, Russian off-shore stem cell centers, former African Kleptocrats, or the Pentagon. Wikileaks will remain a place where people of the world may safely expose injustice and corruption. Indeed, in response to the attempted suppression, Wikileaks will release several thousand pages of additional Scientology materials next week.
KA
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:12 am
by _skippy the dead
Interestingly, because of the layers of anonymity (those cowards!), there have been problems even determining whether Wikileaks or anyone associated with them are located in the US, and therefore able to be brought into US courts. Its server is in Sweden, but there's no identified leaders. A Swiss bank recently failed in getting the site shut down and couldn't get a restraining order for the site to take down some of its documents. So the church may be SOL on this one.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:31 am
by _Mercury
skippy the dead wrote:Interestingly, because of the layers of anonymity (those cowards!), there have been problems even determining whether Wikileaks or anyone associated with them are located in the US, and therefore able to be brought into US courts. Its server is in Sweden, but there's no identified leaders. A Swiss bank recently failed in getting the site shut down and couldn't get a restraining order for the site to take down some of its documents. So the church may be SOL on this one.
it depends on how much is in the war chest
The Tanners LINKED to excerpts and look what happened.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:35 am
by _skippy the dead
Mercury wrote:it depends on how much is in the war chest
The Tanners LINKED to excerpts and look what happened.
Yeah, but the Tanners were identifiable individuals within the US. Wikileaks is not identifiable, not within the US, and may have found the most brilliant loophole possible.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:40 am
by _Mercury
skippy the dead wrote:Mercury wrote:it depends on how much is in the war chest
The Tanners LINKED to excerpts and look what happened.
Yeah, but the Tanners were identifiable individuals within the US. Wikileaks is not identifiable, not within the US, and may have found the most brilliant loophole possible.
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