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The Prophet Test...

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:46 pm
by _truth dancer
Before I got my job I had to take a variety of tests, get fingerprinted, and go through some fairly extensive questionnaires and interviews to determine if I was qualified to work in my field.

So, I got to thinking, with all the various men claiming to be prophets in the news these days, maybe someone should come up with some sort of prophet screening?

At minimum, before a man claims he is a prophet he should be required to have a background check to determine if he has a criminal record. There should be a serious psych eval and a thorough assessment to pick up any mental health issues or personality disorders. Particular attention should be paid to delusion disorder, narcissistic and grandiosity issues, and hyposexuality and sexual predatory behaviors. Perhaps even a neuro exam to pick up on brain abnormalities such as frontal lobe epilepsy and Geschwind Syndrome.

Ok, so maybe it won't happen but it is a good idea don't you think?

:-)

~dancer~




A little FYI.. from Wiki, one of my heros...
Vilayanur S. Ramachandran explored the neural basis of the hyperreligiosity seen in TLE using galvanic skin response, which correlates with emotional arousal, to determine whether the hyperreligiosity seen in TLE was due to an overall enhanced emotional response, or if the enhancement was specific to religious stimuli (Ramachandran and Blakeslee, 1998). By presenting subjects with neutral, sexually arousing and religious words while measuring GSR, Ramachandran was able to show that patients with TLE showed enhanced emotional responses to the religious words, diminished responses to the sexually charged words, and normal responses to the neutral words. These results suggest that the medial temporal lobe is specifically involved in generating some of the emotional reactions associated with religious words, images and symbols.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:14 pm
by _Analytics
That would be a fantastic idea. I know if I saw Jesus, I'd want an extensive psychiatric evaluation before I beleived it!

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:18 pm
by _Who Knows
Analytics wrote:That would be a fantastic idea. I know if I saw Jesus, I'd want an extensive psychiatric evaluation before I beleived it!


Then you'd be labeled an adulterous sign-seeker. Contrary to 99% of everything else in life - when it comes to religion, you can't ask for evidence/proof (oh, except for an undefinable/subjective feeling - a.k.a. - the spiritual witness).

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:23 pm
by _asbestosman
Who Knows wrote:
Analytics wrote:That would be a fantastic idea. I know if I saw Jesus, I'd want an extensive psychiatric evaluation before I beleived it!


Then you'd be labeled an adulterous sign-seeker. Contrary to 99% of everything else in life - when it comes to religion, you can't ask for evidence/proof (oh, except for an undefinable/subjective feeling - a.k.a. - the spiritual witness).


I'd at least ask for the handshake test.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:28 pm
by _The Dude
Who Knows wrote:
Analytics wrote:That would be a fantastic idea. I know if I saw Jesus, I'd want an extensive psychiatric evaluation before I beleived it!


Then you'd be labeled an adulterous sign-seeker. Contrary to 99% of everything else in life - when it comes to religion, you can't ask for evidence/proof (oh, except for an undefinable/subjective feeling - a.k.a. - the spiritual witness).


If someone asks for a sign before they will believe, he is labeled "adulterous sign-seeker". Fine
If someone gets a sign, but doubts the reality of the sign, he is still labeled "adulterous sign-seeker"??? You just cannot win!

Re: The Prophet Test...

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:00 am
by _Yong Xi
truth dancer wrote:Before I got my job I had to take a variety of tests, get fingerprinted, and go through some fairly extensive questionnaires and interviews to determine if I was qualified to work in my field.

So, I got to thinking, with all the various men claiming to be prophets in the news these days, maybe someone should come up with some sort of prophet screening?

At minimum, before a man claims he is a prophet he should be required to have a background check to determine if he has a criminal record. There should be a serious psych eval and a thorough assessment to pick up any mental health issues or personality disorders. Particular attention should be paid to delusion disorder, narcissistic and grandiosity issues, and hyposexuality and sexual predatory behaviors. Perhaps even a neuro exam to pick up on brain abnormalities such as frontal lobe epilepsy and Geschwind Syndrome.

Ok, so maybe it won't happen but it is a good idea don't you think?




Yes, it is likely that one claiming to be a prophet will possess (or come to possess) any or all of the characteristics you describe. In fact, it may even be a requirement.

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:06 am
by _SatanWasSetUp
I think it depends on the rules of the religious group as to what makes a prophet. In Mormonism the only thing you need is good health and longevity. If you can outlast the other guys at the top, you get the job.

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:25 am
by _Boaz & Lidia
The Dude wrote:
Who Knows wrote:
Analytics wrote:That would be a fantastic idea. I know if I saw Jesus, I'd want an extensive psychiatric evaluation before I beleived it!


Then you'd be labeled an adulterous sign-seeker. Contrary to 99% of everything else in life - when it comes to religion, you can't ask for evidence/proof (oh, except for an undefinable/subjective feeling - a.k.a. - the spiritual witness).


If someone asks for a sign before they will believe, he is labeled "adulterous sign-seeker". Fine
If someone gets a sign, but doubts the reality of the sign, he is still labeled "adulterous sign-seeker"??? You just cannot win!


And the sign said you need a membership card to get inside...

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:30 am
by _Jersey Girl
TD,

The Bible has a prophet test. Why don't LDS use that?

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:40 am
by _truth dancer
Jersey Girl wrote:TD,

The Bible has a prophet test. Why don't LDS use that?


I'm just thinking the Bible test needs a little updating. (smile)

Maybe LDS don't use it because it was not translated correctly? ;-)

~dancer~